In the Expansion Main Story..

[Starlord]

Fixed.

I never once found the story to be filler. Everything behind you has had a logical leap to what you're on. Okay, so some quests are just there for funny (Anyone up for Tidus EX or Leviabeetus EX?), but you were told exactly why you were going there: to follow a lead on a hero that killed Titan/Leviathan. And after we finished, at least with Titan, we did come into new info for our mission.

Yes, however, in between you had to do other pointless thing like 6-8 quests involved Bacchus' Wine before you could even do Titan Story. Could skip all of that pointless "back story" ( which can be told in a side quest).

In Ala Mhigo, You had to get the leader of the base your trust but he wouldn't have it, so you had to go Quarrymill and do 8 or so quests before he sends you back to little Ala Mhigo with a letter of recommendation.

Like I said, I love the story, I can just do without the fetch quests.

[Keres]

Yes, however, in between you had to do other pointless thing like 6-8 quests involved Bacchus' Wine before you could even do Titan Story. Could skip all of that pointless "back story" ( which can be told in a side quest).

The thing that really got me about that part was that it was totally self-aware about it, too, but it went through with it anyway. "Ha ha! I need you to prove your worth by going and doing these mundane fetch tasks, like MMOs are wont to do! Isn't that funny? Haha! ...........But no, seriously, I'm really going to need you to go get me those things."

Pointing out how boring something is while you're telling the player to do it doesn't change the fact that it's boring.

[Violyre]

Yes, however, in between you had to do other pointless thing like 6-8 quests involved Bacchus' Wine before you could even do Titan Story. Could skip all of that pointless "back story" ( which can be told in a side quest).

In Ala Mhigo, You had to get the leader of the base your trust but he wouldn't have it, so you had to go Quarrymill and do 8 or so quests before he sends you back to little Ala Mhigo with a letter of recommendation.

Both of those had good reasons, as both were made of a "why should I trust you?" thing. The CoH didn't want to send some idiot to certain death. The Ala Mhigo have no reason to trust anyone but themselves after how they were treated when the fled the Garlians.

Would you rather it go like this?:

"Why should I trust you?"
"I'm an adventurer."
"Okay I trust you fully."

The other thing the missions did for you was guide you along one path of leveling you could do.

[Starlord]

Would you rather it go like this?:

"Why should I trust you?"
"I'm an adventurer."
"Okay I trust you fully."

The other thing the missions did for you was guide you along one path of leveling you could do.

In terms, of the Ala Mhigo is concerned, I would have done something like this:

- Why should I trust you?
- I know that your city has been taken from you and you been forced into this little area, However, I am going to prove to you that I am going to help you out of this crisis.
- Help rebuild there home since they can't go back to Ala Mhigo. Part of it will be fillers yes, BUT as a side quest deal, you help them rebuild their lives here in Eorzea, while preparing to invade Ala Mhigo to take back their homeland! ( Expansion pack talking here). <------ This could be a "side "Reputation building to gain their trust" ( Fill up a bar by doing odd end things like, bringing them food, wood, helping them build a house of sorts.

[Lucke]

Both of those had good reasons, as both were made of a "why should I trust you?" thing. The CoH didn't want to send some idiot to certain death. The Ala Mhigo have no reason to trust anyone but themselves after how they were treated when the fled the Garlians.

I read the Costa del Sol part as: "Ok, you wanna fight Titus like us? Well, rather than see if you know which part of your sword to fight with by sending you out to kill this beasty that's been terrorizing the resort, I'll send you out to get ingredients...for a feast....that isn't physically demanding or shows us your martial skill. We could just give you the strat that worked for us but instead, you're gonna make us sammiches cause we're hungry!"

[Dark-Saviour]

I read the Costa del Sol part as: "Ok, you wanna fight Titus like us? Well, rather than see if you know which part of your sword to fight with by sending you out to kill this beasty that's been terrorizing the resort, I'll send you out to get ingredients...for a feast....that isn't physically demanding or shows us your martial skill. We could just give you the strat that worked for us but instead, you're gonna make us sammiches cause we're hungry!"

The biggest annoyance to me was that they tell me, "You'll understand why we did this when we tell you the strategy." and, IIRC, the only strategy you get is, "Go attune to a beastman aetheryte and you can finally face him!"...

>:-(

[Violyre]

The biggest annoyance to me was that they tell me, "You'll understand why we did this when we tell you the strategy." and, IIRC, the only strategy you get is, "Go attune to a beastman aetheryte and you can finally face him!"...

>:-(

I like think that maybe they had you do all of the things they did to train for the fight. The banquet stuff was just an excuse plot.

[DragonFlyy]

*snip*

I see now, you have no problem with story, you have a problem with quest mechanics. This is how most games are. Are there better ways to handle it? Absolutely, but it has nothing to do with the story really. If you remove all those, the story would admittedly take about 30 minutes, but you would also be somewhere around level 30 when finished with the main story line. They had to add in something to do, otherwise they might as well make a movie.