Ideas On How To Stop Fairy Pulling Dreadnaught In T8

[Avalon_Albrook]

I've never had an issue doing 2 shield lobs to get it over and have that secure initial hate even with healers doing healer things and the fairy doing fairy things. The second lob tends to hit just as it stops almost in front of me but not quite to do its first swipe. If my gcd is refreshed while it's still doing its swipe, I'll run over a few steps to get off the fast blade to start the combo just so there's no downtime in the hate build.

[Ninix]

Might be obvious but I haven't seen it mentioned... is Eos casting Whispering Dawn prior to the dread spawn, either because you're telling her to or because she's on autocast and she wants to heal people up after Gaseous Bomb?

A single Embrace won't pull aggro off of a tank if they Shield Lob/Tomahawk the dread. Nor will a tick of Regen or a non-crit Cure/Physick. But if Whispering Dawn ticks when the dread spawns, that's gonna be a couple thousand enmity on the fairy instantly.

[Dux]

Thanks for all the replies, it is resolved now.

Solution that works for us is to position the fairy between the MT and the DN spawn point. The fairy is out of lazer range and even though it still gets hit it doesn't cleave the raid and is in range of the PLDs RoH.

[KarstenS]

Last two days I was many hours in T8. Enough time to make my thoughts to this issue.

My actual solution is to top the whole parties life before DN spawns. Then get an Adlo up to the tank right after the laser followed by dispelling the dot. Then I do Eye for Eye on tank and virus on Avatar. Now tank can safely provoke and build up his emnity before fairy start to do anything.

[Nagusto]

I'm a bit puzzled by the difficulty the spawn seems to pose for your group. With the strategy I'm using while tanking, Medica II, regen and whispering dawn are usually up for the first dread and it poses no problem. The key is to understand that a super early provoke will do no good as it won't force the dread to move towards you right away. Rather, you want to wait until just before it moves so you're on the even field with healers when you do your first shield lob and you make sure that the dread is running towards you. I'm also puzzled by the lack of Spirits Within which, at 300 potency, is quite an interesting ability for early enmity.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Rather, you want to wait until just before it moves so you're on the even field with healers when you do your first shield lob and you make sure that the dread is running towards you.

I believe an early enough provoke will cause the dread to queue up an attack against you. You're probably right that timing is key though. I notice that if our MT is just a half second late the dead will start with an autoattack on a healer before paying attention to the tank. Not something to cause a wipe; just makes me sit up a little straighter. The following attack is the frontal cleave. If this is happening the MT is letting the dread queue a second attack or just not doing enough to secure hate after provoke.

[RhazeCain]

Speaking as a tank who actually had same/similar problem I can say definitively: This is a tank problem.

You should not lead with Provoke. It might seem like is out of range of Shield Lob/Tomahawk, but it is not. The direction of tank in relation to the boss doesn't matter, you just need to stand very very close to the center of the boss.

The sequence I settled on as a Warrior was (optional Berserk) > Tomahawk > (def cooldowns) > Heavy Swing > Brutal Swing + cooldown > combo'd Skull Sunder > combo'd Butcher's Block. Beyond that it's locked to tank. PLD equivalent I guess would be (optional Fight or Flight) > Shield Lob > (def cooldowns) > Fast Blade > CoS/Spirits Within > combo'd Savage Blade > combo'd Rage of Halone. STR potion instead of Berserk/FoF if you're desperate.

Not guaranteed that the above is completely optimal, but definitely it beats the heck out of Provoke > Shield Lob > Shield Lob.

[Dano]

i use provoke to tag the dreadnaught the instant it spawns and shield lob immediately so the method works, you should get solid enough hate with shield lob. If that's not enough then save one off GCD skill (ie: Circle of Scorn or Spirit Within) for snap hate.

there are times that the dread will turn around for a split second while its moving towards me but it's all right, keep at it and you should be fine.