The HUNT problem : the Users

[Mature]

Am I missing something here? A see all over the forum people asking for solutions for this system the hunt. Is it really the system or the users?
First we have a bunch of people complaining that sands oils shouldn't be included in the hunt rewards becuase is not fair on the people that work 'hard' training for coil..... And again this is coming from people who have a static. Who's got it hard are the pugs who's got the real challenge.

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[Mature]

Then we have another bunch of people complaining that people are pulling without waiting for others or no shouting for others to get the mark..... I mean really? Where does it say : you must share the mark and wait for everyone to join? NO WHERE. So what are we arguing about? If u want to share the mark, good for you but if you don't , you just don't. In other words : you find it you kill it. Isn't that what u supposed to do? If not elaborate.
And then we have another bunch of people complaining that is not fair on smaller FC... Are people thick enough to think that a FC of 500 users are gonna be doing hunts everyday? And everyone? Usually you only see a good bunch of 30 people online out of the full amount
I have come to the conclusion the real issue here is not the system but a bunch of users passing blame on the system due to their unfortunate experiences.

[Prototype909]

The behavior exists because it's promoted by the system.

1) More cost effective rewards than doing dungeons (Soldiery and Myth rewards are huge) + Acquisition of Allied Seals
2) Can be zerged by 100s reducing the difficulty of the encounters (If there ever was any)
3) Rewards acquired through seals are things everyone wants, but were previously gated behind both difficult content + lockouts (Coil) or just recently a lockout (CT2)

The above three points alone make it so that it's easily the most cost effective way to spend time in game sans actually clearing Coil for the week. This isn't just a playerbase issue - the system promotes cheating/cheesing the system because people want the rewards that bad.

Also in regards to the premature pulling - that is 100% working as intended. Hunt was NOT meant to be a loot pinata or some server wide event, the encounters simply don't have the HP pools to lend credence to that interpretation. On THAT point I will say that is certainly the community trying to turn content into something it isn't meant to be - but again when the rewards are so good it is to be expected that people WANT it to be that kind of content. Because you hypothetically COULD reach every mark first people expect that they WILL reach every mark in time for credit - which is ridiculous. If you didn't find it then don't be mad when you don't get to it, in all honesty they should be glad that they were even able to find out about it.

[Malzian]

It's about entitlement. People expect to have a right to every mark that anyone comes across. I reiterate my post from the other thread...

Imagine turning on the news and hearing this headline: "Man finds massive gold vein and mines it all himself! Community is outraged that he did not announce his find so that everyone could turn up and swing their pick for their 'fair share'! More to follow as another man finds a thousand dollar meteorite and sells it on eBay..."

[Mature]

The system doesn't "promote" these behaviors. Is the users PROMOTING their behavior of how unsatisfied they are with it because is not what they wanted or more like "work as they wanted"

And again the items obtain by hunts are not easy you still need to farm and grind hours for it.

We cant cover the sun with one finger

[skaterger]

Hey OP, next time you go to the zoo, try putting your hand in the lion's enclosure and blaming it when it bites your hand off.

[Malzian]

In reality, the "hunts" don't even live up to the name. Hunting is a long-term endeavor that you have to put specific effort to first find the target then manage to kill it, which you might not even manage. We don't even really have that first part. It's more like 'elite stumbles' than 'elite hunts'.

[Mature]

That's why I stay away from Zoos

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

Sorry, but in game desing you make system to be "jerk proof". If the system can be abused, it will be, and after that, all that comes along with it. This is all 101% SE fault for devoloping such an irresponsable content.

I would like to ask to any moderator and developer reading this forums. Does it looks like hunts are fun? Do you guys think people grinding and fighting over the /sh in each map is having fun with this content? What you plan to do fix this? Remove the /sh from the maps now? Stop hiding, stop covering your mistakes, Hunts are bad, is a bad system and needs to be addressed like that. It needs to be reworked in a way things like camping and massive zerg camping completely dissapears.

We wanted open world hard and FUN content. The marks themselves are not even hard. The system itself is which is ruining the experience for the grand mayority of players.

Just go to coerthas and stand there for 15 minutes. What happend to "if is not fun you are doing it wrong"?

[Mature]

Well I personally I have no issues with the hunt at all or whatsoever. I have got marks as I have missed something. But I'm not blaming SE for people's unfortunates.

Is like me blaming my phone company for my overspending...........