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    White Mage Gearing Suggestions.

    I was wondering if someone could enlighten me about what gear or stat weights a White Mage should be focusing on once they reach level 50? I am interested specifically in Item Levels 90, 95, 100, and 110. If someone could help me out with this I would appreciate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Gee thanks for being of no help whatsoever. I already knew about that site, but was hoping for some insight from people who have already got level 50 White Mages in helping plan my White Mage at that level, as mine isn't quite there yet.
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    Yeah, I realized after a moment "Oh, I didn't really help" lol

    Most WHMs recommend DET as their primary secondary stat but there's been a movement of increasing amounts of PIE as well. The amount of PIE you'll personally want come down to playstyle however, so you'll want to play around with that yourself and see how you feel. But for an up and coming, focus primary on Determination to help normalize cures.

    In terms of specific gears sets, since you know of the calculator, just makes use of it to find the appropriate DET pieces and away you go. Since you have ACN 50 already, you can probably plug in as a SCH somewhere and start grinding out i60-i80 gear to prepare for the up and coming 50 WHM
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    From that set I would pick the H.Allagan feet over Daystar feet, Daystar wrist over H.Allagan wrist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern View Post
    I don't mean to hijack this thread, but it is partially related to the OP's question...which food or food items are recommended for a White Mage to consume on a regular basis for maximum healing effectiveness?

    Right now I am drinking Grape Juice, although I used to drink Mulled Tea.

    Edit: Reading the above answers to the Tharian's question, I was surprised to learn that DET was an important trait to modify for us healers. What exactly does it do for you? Increase critical heal rates? Thanks Tharian for asking these questions, because now I am taking notes! Apparently I need to work on my DET, though...
    DET is a flat boost to healing and damage done.

    Food:
    Crit (SCH): Apkallu Omelette
    DET: Black Truffle Risotto
    PIE: Pineapple Juice

    Edit: Just for clarity on builds: Crit build is for SCH as their shields can crit (drawback is lower base heals); PIE build is for better MP regeneration if you don't have access to Ballad on MP intensive fights or with undergeared tanks (drawback is lower base heals); DET build is for maximum heals and is best used on WHM when MP isn't expected to be an issue (downside is lower MP regeneration and usually more over healing).
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    If you have the space/funds/time I'd suggest keeping both PIE and DET options. DET mainly for when you have a BRD in party as it boosts your healing done. PIE mainly for when you don't have a BRD and anticipate having a sponge or two as the more MP you have the more MP you recover per tick.

    Edit: Seeing as you have ACN, if your main is SCH and not SMN you likely have been gearing for crits. If memory serves all the crit pieces also have the higher amounts of PIE. That's one of the gearsets right there so you'd be fine using that most likely.
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    I have Scholar up to i90 already and had been planning on just starting my White Mage with most of that gear to begin with and then modifying the gear list with what I find along the way. At least that way I save some resources when it comes to setting up the gear list. That said, some of my scholar's gear is Scholar specific so I will have to be focusing in on getting more gear for my White Mage that is White Mage Specific or Healer Generic Oriented. Either way thanks for clarifying the orientation towards Determination and Piety, that does help a bit.

    A friend on another message board also recommended this list for i110 gear that doesn't include gear that requires Turn 9: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N36D was wondering if that is a valid list of gear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharian View Post
    A friend on another message board also recommended this list for i110 gear that doesn't include gear that requires Turn 9: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N36D was wondering if that is a valid list of gear?

    You're packing quite a bit of crit there. I don't recommend or even rely on a crit heal myself as a white mage. In most cases it'll just overheal or the tank is dangerously low if the crit cure I (or cure II for that matter) doesn't overheal.

    You need to figure out where the fine line is where you can heal comfortably. The two stats you'd want are Determination and piety, but it's not carved in stone that you should go 100% det first and piety if there's nothing better or vica versa. I personally recommend going for a build where piety and determination are in a certain balance you feel comfortable with. Too much det you'll gimp your MP pool quite a bit. Too much piety and you'll gimp your healing output quite a bit. Moral of the story: A general "BiS" build for White Mage doesn't exist, in my opinion. It mainly depends on your style and bias that will create your "BiS". Are you the omnipotent healer that gives the scholar more chances to cast some DoTs? Or are you the more cautious healer who banks up MP for the "just in case"-situations? Or perhaps a balance between the two? Only you can decide on that.
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    I don't mean to hijack this thread, but it is partially related to the OP's question...which food or food items are recommended for a White Mage to consume on a regular basis for maximum healing effectiveness?

    Right now I am drinking Grape Juice, although I used to drink Mulled Tea.

    Edit: Reading the above answers to the Tharian's question, I was surprised to learn that DET was an important trait to modify for us healers. What exactly does it do for you? Increase critical heal rates? Thanks Tharian for asking these questions, because now I am taking notes! Apparently I need to work on my DET, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern View Post
    I don't mean to hijack this thread, but it is partially related to the OP's question...which food or food items are recommended for a White Mage to consume on a regular basis for maximum healing effectiveness?

    Right now I am drinking Grape Juice, although I used to drink Mulled Tea.
    Make sure you look at the Max stat bonus when you are buying food instead of the % bonuses. Grape juice is meant to be used at low levels which is why the % boosts are high but they cap incredibly low. Mulled Tea would be giving you about 3-4 times the stats.

    Mulled Tea is probably the most cost-effective/inexpensive food, but if you have the means to make or purchase them the High Quality versions of Black Truffle Risotto, Pineapple Juice, and Pineapple Ponzecake are all worth using, with the latter two having similar stats with the Juice weighted towards Piety and the Cake weighted towards Spell Speed. It's up to you and your playstyle.

    There are benefits to every stat for WHM, although Crit can potentially be dangerous enmity-wise.
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