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    Santrale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liham View Post
    @santrale : lol you seem to have suffer a lot
    Don't worry, cool down, this is just game !!

    First of all you did not seem to understand my argumentation

    I do agree on some point about what you said about the hardcore in final fantasy online so maybe i should have said : "final fantasy onlines causal player" lol
    and i do agree that the game still need some adjustment (especially on SP).

    But what i wanted to say it is that if you are a "final fantasy onlines causal player" (FFOCP for short), you have clearly enough interesting things to do before the leves are reseted.
    During the short amount of time i played as a FFOCP, I know that with all the things to do (and that i listed) i am not limited be the leves timer reset.

    For the part a little off topics about hardcore play on final fantasy, i think you asking the impossible : if you want your super unique armor, you have to hardcore play : this actually seems normal for me no ?

    I actually am the kind of players who play for fun, challenge, group and most importantly storyline and world lore. I don't like either 'end game' nor PVP. So i am maybe not a good example. But i think with my linkshell (and when they will improve the lfg system), i will be able to reach my goals ... at my speed.
    Super unique armor? Yeah, maybe you should play hardcore... but I think it should only vary in LOOKs, not functionality. Sure let it look super awesome to make it desirable so the hardcore people can have something to make themselves feel better with since no one outside the game is gonna care. But stat wise it should be just as functional as any casual piece of equipment. You say you like story? Good luck with some story combat events because SE likes to make it so if you don't have a tweaked out character or a certain class you're not doing it.

    As far as the eye rolling, and me missing the point. What happens when you have a day where you can blow it relaxing on the game? You're limited to the leve timer and can't take advantage of that, but I guess with your desire to craft and gather that's okay. I'm not always in the mood to craft, that much is for certain. And it doesn't take but an hour for me to get leves done, leaving two hours (If I played three even) that day for grinding on mobs, cause as I said... not a fan of the crafting grind, then again they have limitations on those leves too to rank up on too so.In the end if you're efficient enough at it all the things you stated, save for the instanced raids (which is party play) you may barely consume up to two hours of game play.

    You have an LS to help? Great, wait till they demand you have certain gear or classes to do tougher stuff... yeah you'll get there eventually with the casual play, by the time you do all the others have everything from something and they don't do it no more. People in groups like that rarely ever go out of their way for just one member, and if yours does-appreciate and keep that LS it's one in a million. I was fortunate my LS on XI took good care of me, but I declined many things because I knew sometimes others worked harder for it, but I am a rarity too, most people in general will take and take and TAKE everything they can with greed and not care who they step on because it's "Nothing personal, just a game!" However the way they talk to and treat others who don't have this, it turns a game into a rat race JOB. That is what I hope to not see. So yeah, make em look as shiny and pretty as they want. but stat wise don't give them an advantage to deny you for something as small and dumb as the occasional raid instance/SP party because they only want the best of the best.
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    I agree with OP. Another option would be to expand to more than just 8 per day or to have 8 per job. (E.g. 8 for Lancer, 8 for Archer, etc)
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    I want ti see a reduction of limits leves to 6 but a reduction reset to 24 hours.

    PLEASE SE make it simple. Not easy. But yes simple.
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    Rise III, Can i have it?

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    Oh darn, I was supposed to hit Post Quick Reply not Reply to Thread.

    Casually speaking, I don't even finish the eight regional leves and eight local leves in the 36 hour window. I wouldn't be able to take advantage of a raised limit anyway, haha. Having non-consecutive hours for gaming availability during the week limits my ability to anchor down with an SP party or assemble a party for the dungeon and still do the dungeon.

    I figure, if someone has more consecutive hours where they can knock out all the leves in a sitting, then they can say, "Forget leves today, it's dungeon time!" And then have fun getting lost and slain by scantily clad lalafell bandits deep in a dungeon somewhere.
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    Last edited by Fiosha_Maureiba; 07-28-2011 at 01:21 AM.

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    Why should they have to nerf SP so it's more tempting to party? To force people who don't want to to get one? They shouldn't have nerfed SP. Yes, give the party players the party play they desire with areas where a party is needed. But don't take away a solo/duo or even trio players ability to make good progress either. Partying should be an option not an obligation.
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    This casual player stuff just blows my mind! This nonsense has plagued WoW for years. I can make a list of solo player RPG games that you can play and not have this issue of time constraints that you all love to cry about. If you are SO damn busy why are you trying to get involved in an MMO?

    I played ffxi for 5 years and I don't remember this casual content demand that is invading this game -.- If you don't like the way the game is played then leave. (to me, casual content should be a 4-5 hour dynamis type event) I hated this game with a searing passion when it was released and I left as well, I'm back after 1.18 and to me its pretty close to what I had wished it had been on release.

    News Flash : MMOs are NOT casual games, and they should not be forced into being casual. Take a good look at WoW in 2005-6 and a look at WoW in 2010-2011, you can also look at what this game was when they tried to make it "casual" it was a grotesque fetus that should of been aborted 8 months before delivery. I rest my case.
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    Last edited by Chain; 07-29-2011 at 03:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain View Post
    This casual player stuff just blows my mind! This nonsense has plagued WoW for years. I can make a list of solo player RPG games that you can play and not have this issue of time constraints that you all love to cry about. If you are SO damn busy why are you trying to get involved in an MMO?

    I played ffxi for 5 years and I don't remember this casual content demand that is invading this game -.- If you don't like the way the game is played then leave. (to me, casual content should be a 4-5 hour dynamis type event) I hated this game with a searing passion when it was released and I left as well, I'm back after 1.18 and to me its pretty close to what I had wished it had been on release.

    News Flash : MMOs are NOT casual games, and they should not be forced into being casual. Take a good look at WoW in 2005-6 and a look at WoW in 2010-2011, you can also look at what this game was when they tried to make it "casual" it was a grotesque fetus that should of been aborted 8 months before delivery. I rest my case.
    No offense but this MMO is not catered to you. Gaming in general is more causal with the shear growth of gaming platforms and the aging of early gaming generations. Hardcore games are a relic of the past. However, that doesn't mean hardcore content shouldn't exist. But this MMO, and most MMOs in existence, are more casual then ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    No offense but this MMO is not catered to you. Gaming in general is more causal with the shear growth of gaming platforms and the aging of early gaming generations. Hardcore games are a relic of the past. However, that doesn't mean hardcore content shouldn't exist. But this MMO, and most MMOs in existence, are more casual then ever.
    No offense but this game is catered to me The constant whining and crying from casual babies since 1.18 has proven so.

    Next on the list, double or triple SP per rank and keep solo xp low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraphikSublime View Post
    personally i think most of the new content and such is wonderful.. but the fact that gets me is that party play has been enhanced so much now.. yet all the rewards and sp and what not has been nerfed for casual players whos main source of leveling or making money was leves.. since the parties can now spam the the raids... I think it would be nice if they removed the limit to the number of leves that could be done a day..
    LOL! Leves were ruining the games leveling system and the economy as it was. If you're so casual you shouldn't want to do 100 leves a day.
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    wall of text is hurting my eyes... dev's did say (somewhere) that in 1.18 the SP might get bad but they going to start fixing those and 1.19 and further updates should help out the casual players. And the ticket system I think was for 1.19 also should help out on this part.
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