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  1. #81
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    BlackThought's Avatar
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    Black Thought
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    Malboro
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Adler View Post
    This game is very much dragoon friendly. The greatest difficulty dragoon (and monk too) can have is spinning tank in dungeon.
    lol

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  2. #82
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    Xisin Fendada
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestr View Post
    Two runs of ST last night, both as BLM. First run was flippin though. Everything wanted to either target me, be directed at me or pop on me. Soo much movement in that run. Then next run was a dream. NO movement at all. I was a turret and a damn good one lol. For BLM it is soo random. THe numbers we produce are random, our procs are random...so it's nice when you can reliably cast without unnecessary movement.

    Syn
    Theres nothing random about blm. firestarters are always 40%, thunderclouds are 5% per tick and crits are whatever your critical rating is. When you get targeted by a mechanic, its not luck that lowers your dps by a ton its how well you can handle that mechanic.

    it always averages out in a long fight, on the first 3-4 strings of fire sure cite luck, but over a 7-10 min fight that simply isnt the case.

    for example it is luck if you crit that bv req raging strikes int pot flare. it isnt luck that you only crited 1 of those flares out of 5 with your 550 crit rating (thats normal)
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    Last edited by Xisin; 07-26-2014 at 10:48 AM.

  3. #83
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    too much black mage love, we bards are feeling neglected.
    I have been casting foe's for em since 2.0 fucking black mages.

    On a side note: I do think having the best aoe & the best single target rotation now is a bit, overpowered.
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  4. #84
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    Numenor1379's Avatar
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    Lucius Magnus
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    Famfrit
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSigy View Post
    too much black mage love, we bards are feeling neglected.
    I have been casting foe's for em since 2.0 fucking black mages.

    On a side note: I do think having the best aoe & the best single target rotation now is a bit, overpowered.
    Pfft, we do not have the best single target rotation. That still belongs to MNKs/DRGs.
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  5. #85
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    Eissels's Avatar
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    Faedra Braddock
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSigy View Post
    too much black mage love, we bards are feeling neglected.
    I have been casting foe's for em since 2.0 fucking black mages.

    On a side note: I do think having the best aoe & the best single target rotation now is a bit, overpowered.
    Cast Paeon for me instead so I can punch more things!

    ... Though, I guess this doesn't apply as much since I've officially shelved MNK for BRD.
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  6. #86
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    Xisin's Avatar
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    Xisin Fendada
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Melee still win on single target dps.
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  7. #87
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MrSigy View Post
    too much black mage love, we bards are feeling neglected.
    I have been casting foe's for em since 2.0 fucking black mages.

    On a side note: I do think having the best aoe & the best single target rotation now is a bit, overpowered.
    the term overpowered only counts in end game, as AOE is a small factor in end game, its moot point, devs only take account to balance classes for end game in terms of numbers, everything else is just fluff.
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  8. #88
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    Theres nothing random about blm.
    Da fuk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    Firestarters are always 40%, thunderclouds are 5% per tick and crits are whatever your critical rating is.
    Thanks for the clarification?... I am well aware of what our tool tips say. Can you honestly say that your firestarters ALWAYS proc 40% of your fire phase? If so, numbers? It's a 40% CHANCE for firestarter to proc when your fire lands, NOT a guaranteed firestarter proc 40% of your fire phase.. if that were the case you would get two firestarters per fire phase and only one thundercloud proc per thunder dot. Sometimes I get more, sometimes I get less. But there is nothing random about that..

    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    When you get targeted by a mechanic, its not luck that lowers your dps by a ton its how well you can handle that mechanic.
    Um...yea...K

    Quote Originally Posted by Xisin View Post
    It always averages out in a long fight, on the first 3-4 strings of fire sure cite luck, but over a 7-10 min fight that simply isnt the case.

    for example it is luck if you crit that bv req raging strikes int pot flare. it isnt luck that you only crited 1 of those flares out of 5 with your 550 crit rating (thats normal)
    I am not sure where you are going with this. BLM dps averages out? We can cite luck but only if we meet x conditions but that doesn't happen with y.

    I don't know...
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  9. #89
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    Aenore Tristelle
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    i don't know for others but if the first astral fire phase with pot + raging + battlevoiced foe requiem up will go on with little to no crits or no procs my dps get a fare hit compared to a lucky start even if i get those procs later when no buff is up. It's even annoying when you don't get that firestarter to move "gratis" to tower after 3-4 fire and you have to depend to swiftcast that you may need to do landmines later

    Sure usually the percentage will even out but a proc has not the same value at every time in the fight. You can get none when you need them but get them later but it's not the same
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