FFXIV: Cheat 2 Win - The New Norm?

[Azurymber]

How's about we actually give the Devs time to address this. Because an exploit like this will most likely not only need mass bans, but also a update that will "break " the app.

So how's 'bout we all calm down, and not act like "Oh woe! Nothing will EVER get done about this!" after 4 freakin' days.

The point here is people exploited things -before- hunts and SE did nothing about it.
If this was the first time people were openly cheating in an obvious matter I think it would make sense to give SE time to fix the problem

But this is just another exploit in a list of exploits over the passed year that have gone unaddressed.

[Pandastirfry]

The point here is people exploited things -before- hunts and SE did nothing about it.
If this was the first time people were openly cheating in an obvious matter I think it would make sense to give SE time to fix the problem

But this is just another exploit in a list of exploits over the passed year that have gone unaddressed.

SE did do something about it, Just because they didn't send you an personal email saying what was done, doesn't equate to inaction.
Third party apps evolve just like the game does, each time something like this happens,, The devs need time to figure out who is truly using it, and how it interacts with the game code, so it can be effectively "broken" before anything can be "done". And after they do that....the app will evolve again.

You would think after they way things went in 1.0...XI 1.0 that everyone would have known that this was the inevitable end result of this, But a insistent group kept whining for roaming NMs.... Well, the inevitable has happened and now the Devs need to figure out how to "fix" it...at least for a few weeks before we're right back to square one. just like with the bots and other nonsense. So calm down, you're not going to see some massive, impressive action after FOUR DAYS

[Azurymber]

SE did do something about it, Just because they didn't send you an personal email saying what was done, doesn't equate to inaction.
Third party apps evolve just like the game does, each time something like this happens,, The devs need time to figure out who is truly using it, and how it interacts with the game code, so it can be effectively "broken" before anything can be "done". And after they do that....the app will evolve again.
You would think after they way things went in 1.0...XI 1.0 that everyone would have known that this was the inevitable end result of this, But a insistent group kept whining for roaming NMs.... Well, the inevitable has happened and now the Devs need to figure out how to "fix" it...at least for a few weeks before we're right back to square one. just like with the bots and other nonsense.

I farmed in coerthas for weeks. same warp bot was always there. ppl shouting every day about reporting them
I did over 2300 wolf's den pvp matches, same 2 or 3 botters always on 24/7 botting for over a month at minimum (from what i was told they were there months before). half the time not even fighting, just running straight into a wall
I posted 4 threads with 100s of hits about win-trading. No response for months (apparently yoshi eventually said it was reportable). I have screenshots of entire LS's on my server specifically for win trading, with screen shots of ppl admitting doing it. none of them were ever banned.

I'm sorry but it's beyond obvious that SE has -not- done anything serious about this stuff

By the time devs "fix" it, all the people cheating will have maxed out their gear with marks. And will no longer be using the third party apps. Since you can't tell if people are using third party apps (at least that's what has been suggested in interviews) no one will get banned.
And thus, cheat 2 win.

[Morningstar1337]

So calm down, you're not going to see some massive, impressive action after FOUR DAYS

Why not? Frontlines had a response after 1, maybe 2 days. :P

[Pandastirfry]

Why not? Frontlines had a response after 1, maybe 2 days. :P

Because the notable difference is one was an internal fault that could be easily found and rectified (with a band-aid hotfix and the actual true fix isn't coming for another week), the other is an external exploit that requires figuring out how exactly it can and does interface with the game.

I'll leave it to the reader to work out which is which.

[Worm]

How's about we actually give the Devs time to address this. Because an exploit like this will most likely not only need mass bans, but also a update that will "break " the app.

Because then we wouldn't be hyperbolic ninnies on an MMO forum.

[Sove92]

update that will "break " the app.

Every patch already does this, guess what happens? I'll tell you, developer rolls out a patch to their app within hours. And because these things only read the memory (which also every AV-software and bazillion other software do), you can't really detect it.

[Tupsi]

Every patch already does this, guess what happens? I'll tell you, developer rolls out a patch to their app within hours. And because these things only read the memory (which also every AV-software and bazillion other software do), you can't really detect it.

Only if SE wanted to they can quite easily - They can easily throw in dummy NPCs that you can only see if you're using said app. They did it for FFXI so I don't see why not.

[Sove92]

Only if SE wanted to they can quite easily - They can easily throw in dummy NPCs that you can only see if you're using said app. They did it for FFXI so I don't see why not.

Legit people search known spawn locations in a loop, you will ban legit ppl this way, sorry.

[Alkimi]

Only if SE wanted to they can quite easily - They can easily throw in dummy NPCs that you can only see if you're using said app. They did it for FFXI so I don't see why not.

If you want to "catch" people, just rename your chocobo to a hunt in that zone and hide behind some rocks in an obscure spot. If people directly run to you then stop all confused then you know lol.