FFXIV: Cheat 2 Win - The New Norm?

[coldreactive]

I mean... it's just a game, right?

Cheaters and trolls will use this against you as a counter-counter point sadly. It's annoying.

[Fendred]

What I don't understand, is why it's sooooooo important for these people to "win" to the point that they feel the need to exploit through third party software.
I mean... it's just a game, right?
Competition in hunts and pvp is part of the game. So really, what will they do when they have everything by doing nothing then have nothing left to do.

My brain is frazzled but I know what I'm trying to say >.<

I don't think all third party apps are cheats necessarily. Boss mods that help teach new players about certain boss encounters generally make the community a happier place simply due to less of their time taken up by wiping.

Also, open world content is always a tricky issue. Technically, there is a race condition involved. Even if I tell the whole zone where the target monster is and ask for others to wait, their will be some individual that will begin attacking it, causing others to do the same in a social chain reaction. However, there are a ton of considerate individuals who do make a genuine effort to wait for others.

I think they just need to make the hunts elite bosses that can wipe the floor with a single person and the problem should go away.

[Mogi]

>.<

Because some ppl are that pathetic. They just want to have it all with out doing a thing there not real fans of games there just lazy pricks that ruin the game for all of us. Yes SE needs to do more to fight the good fight but it's not there fault ppl are so pathetic they need to find new ways to cheat everyday. The good thing is this games not that bad off yet but the bad it makes ppl quit in my book i don't see how ppl who cheat can enjoy the game when they never earned anything i mean is that not the point? work hard look back and say yess i did this it was a long hard road but i did it.

[Malamasala]

What I don't understand, is why it's sooooooo important for these people to "win" to the point that they feel the need to exploit through third party software.
I mean... it's just a game, right?
Competition in hunts and pvp is part of the game. So really, what will they do when they have everything by doing nothing then have nothing left to do.

My brain is frazzled but I know what I'm trying to say >.<

I don't think it ever was about winning (maybe for a very limited group of people). Usually it would be to avoid wasting time. Like in FF11, where it is better to cheat and get fafnir after 3 hours camping, than to camp 3 hours and lose it so you wasted 3 hours for nothing.

PS. My LS never cheated, but I am well aware of how frustrated I was to always be asked to go camp for hours for nothing and waste my life.

[Coatl]

What I don't understand, is why it's sooooooo important for these people to "win" to the point that they feel the need to exploit through third party software.
I mean... it's just a game, right?

I'm sorry but that's a very unreasonable logic. It is just a game but at the same time it isn't. It takes up hours of your day just like any other activity (work, school, etc). The last thing people want to do is come home and spend hours hunting in coerthas to yield unfruitful results. It's a waste of time and honestly, the way the game is cheating their players with hunts I'm not surprised players are cheating back with no sympathy towards square enix. Thankfully I have other things to keep me busy (got started on my animus books) so I can completely ignore the existence of marks.

And while an advantage is an advantage, I think people are over-exaggerating how useful it really is.

[Tupsi]

I'm sorry but that's a very unreasonable logic. It is just a game but at the same time it isn't. It takes up hours of your day just like any other activity (work, school, etc). The last thing people want to do is come home and spend hours hunting in coerthas to yield unfruitful results. It's a waste of time and honestly, the way the game is cheating their players with hunts I'm not surprised players are cheating back with no sympathy towards square enix. Thankfully I have other things to keep me busy (got started on my animus books) so I can completely ignore the existence of marks.

And while an advantage is an advantage, I think people are over-exaggerating how useful it really is.

To be fair, no matter what, it is just a video game unless I can go down the street and walk into Eorzea. There's no overexaggeration since it's a slippery slope from there - also proves just how many really will use 3rd party tools to gain advantages "over nothing."

[Pandastirfry]

How's about we actually give the Devs time to address this. Because an exploit like this will most likely not only need mass bans, but also a update that will "break " the app.

So how's 'bout we all calm down, and not act like "Oh woe! Nothing will EVER get done about this!" after 4 freakin' days.

[coldreactive]

How's about we actually give the Devs time to address this. Because an exploit like this will most likely not only need mass bans, but also a update that will "break " the app.

So how's 'bout we all calm down, and not act like "Oh woe! Nothing will EVER get done about this!" after 4 freakin' days.

After what happened with 1.0, I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner.

[Doki]

It was/is pretty prevalent in FFXI so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. That said, I still report gil spammers every chance I get. It's just a drop in the bucket. Once you understand just how many people out there use this garbage, you understand SE would have to kill the entire game to remove all the cheaters.

[Arutan]

I don't really agree with the use of cheat, but player respond to SE's bad content in their own way.

The hunt was, is and will always be a trash content, especially because of tards pulling without anyone being here instead of signaling them and wait (and it's like this since the beginning of the hunt). Plus some people take ages to load and have the NM show on their screen, which sometime forbid them to have the kill. We've been complaining for ages about it, asking at least for NM to be like FATE with stats increase depending of the number of people. But nothing has ever been done.
So, what people do when nothing is made to change a crappy situation that SE doesn't care about? They use tier software to make the content DOABLE.

It's kinda exagerated for PvP but I can see where people go with bots. PvP is an uninteresting content, where people are just randomingly rolling their head on their keyboard. I did The Feast for an entire afternoon last sunday to get the Garo mount, and I've never ended a day being so salty. Bless SE for disableing the team chat in The Feast. So if there's something you really want in there, mostly mount, but don't wanna catch cancer, well...

Again, I don't promote the use of cheat, I'm just pointing out that people use cheat not to cheat, but because they're trying to solve content's problem that SE has never be able to solve.
Now there's RMT, who cheat for cheating. Those are garbage.