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    Seoulstar's Avatar
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    Sohee Kim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    While I agree there is logic to deception I feel the argument isnt as apt to FFXIV since deception in every case given so far has a cost FFXIV wont care about. If you dress up in only merchant garb you've lost serious defense. If you dress up with merchant garb over your military garb you've gained extra weight. These actions have cost while FFXIV's if allowed would have none (minus maybe the cost of glamour'ing in the first place).
    Hm..true..very true.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    Hm..true..very true.
    You're too amicable, I give you like. lol

    Although if you want to see OP deception, in Dark Souls 1 / 2, there is an ability to hide your left and right hand items. So OP. Perhaps there will be an ability you can learn from rogue that can add some fun pvp deception (takes up skill slot, thus balanced in some manor).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 07-13-2014 at 06:26 AM. Reason: humble -> amicable

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    Velvet Velour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    While I agree there is logic to deception I feel the argument isnt as apt to FFXIV since deception in every case given so far has a cost FFXIV wont care about. If you dress up in only merchant garb you've lost serious defense. If you dress up with merchant garb over your military garb you've gained extra weight. These actions have cost while FFXIV's if allowed would have none (minus maybe the cost of glamour'ing in the first place).
    This isn't reality, it's a game in a fantasy world with that even has the word fantasy in the title! The merchant garb could be magical or enchanted in some manner for all you know. Also consider that in the Japanese version, they're called mirage prisms unlike our version where it's known as glamour prisms.
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    Daiza Auvec
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    Interesting.

    The answer to that question/riddle was "I don't know", but a common thing in PvP in games such as this is that one can visually identify the relative power of an opponent based on sight. Someone coming at me in high allagan gear, I know he has some experience under his belt, but I see a guy in the highest PvP gear, I know he has more.

    You can throw out military deception and all that fun stuff to justify why you should and I agree. That said, the above is generally the reason why vanity anything tends to be shut down during PvP.
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    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    Interesting.

    The answer to that question/riddle was "I don't know", but a common thing in PvP in games such as this is that one can visually identify the relative power of an opponent based on sight. Someone coming at me in high allagan gear, I know he has some experience under his belt, but I see a guy in the highest PvP gear, I know he has more.

    You can throw out military deception and all that fun stuff to justify why you should and I agree. That said, the above is generally the reason why vanity anything tends to be shut down during PvP.
    Hilariously enough, you can't even use the highest PvP gear in frontlines because you can't use glamour and the PvP gear itself is worthless because morale doesn't work in frontlines. There is no good reason anyone can give for why glamour isn't allowed in PvP.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Why is glamour locked in frontlines?
    Best I can figure is when Wolf Den came out it didn't have job titles. They didn't want to have players disguise themselves. I agree though since we have job titles, that really doesn't matter now.
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    Madeye Moxie
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    I'm assuming it's a carry-over from wolves' den stuff. Most games if you have a system that hides glamour whenever you are in PvP, simply flagging PvP on will revert you to your normal gear.

    This is probably how the PvP flag was handled for Wolves Den and continues to work the same way in the Frontlines.
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    Recaldy Northwind
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    Who zooms all the way in to correctly and quickly identify what you're opponant is wearing...among the other 5-10 plus people? I see a word I dart for/away asap. A big skirt or a bikini won't effect my decision in the slightest.
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    Dravion Miraux
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