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    Force disconnection

    Not sure if a community rep will respond to this or not, but a suggestion I have is would it be possible to implement a force disconnect feature on the website, in order to disconnect your character by force? Personally my internet goes in and out sometimes and waiting 5~10 minutes each time becomes irksome, this is no fault of SE's though, but 3102 gets annoying real quick.
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    Last edited by Ephier; 07-13-2014 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Not sure if a community rep will respond to this or not, but a suggestion I have is would it be possible to implement a force disconnect feature on the website, in order to disconnect your character by force? Personally my internet goes in and out sometimes and waiting 5~10 minutes each time becomes irksome, this is no fault of SE's though, but 3102 gets annoying real quick.
    You don't want that trust me. Adding the ability to force disconnect an account through the internet would not only backfire on you but open up a slew of security problems for everyone else with an account. Man made or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    You don't want that trust me. Adding the ability to force disconnect an account through the internet would not only backfire on you but open up a slew of security problems for everyone else with an account. Man made or otherwise.
    I do not see how it could backfire if you could only do it while you are logged on to the website, which also requires the OTP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    I do not see how it could backfire if you could only do it while you are logged on to the website, which also requires the OTP.
    Two reasons: Not everyone uses the OTP (which doesn't make an account 100% hack proof anyway) and a force disconnect feature can be reverse engineered to gain access to an account; it's a two way street.

    Think of this analogy: It's better to have thin air to nowhere than a well fortified door that leads to something of value to you. I'm not tiring to shoot down your idea for fun, i'm merely pointing out how it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    Two reasons: Not everyone uses the OTP (which doesn't make an account 100% hack proof anyway) and a force disconnect feature can be reverse engineered to gain access to an account; it's a two way street.

    Think of this analogy: It's better to have thin air to nowhere than a well fortified door that leads to something of value to you. I'm not tiring to shoot down your idea for fun, i'm merely pointing out how it is.
    Added security is added security. That's like saying I'm not going to install a lock on my door just because they will still be able to break in. If you are not using OTP, that is not a very wise decision. Also I have still yet to see if your reasoning how they could gain access to my account. If they already have your username and password (no OTP), they going to get on it eventually whether you actually on or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Added security is added security. That's like saying I'm not going to install a lock on my door just because they will still be able to break in. If you are not using OTP, that is not a very wise decision. Also I have still yet to see if your reasoning how they could gain access to my account. If they already have your username and password (no OTP), they going to get on it eventually whether you actually on or not.
    It is obvious you didn't read my post. I didn't say you shouldn't put a lock on your door. I'm saying you shouldn't have a door to begin with. Do you see the point now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    Two reasons: Not everyone uses the OTP (which doesn't make an account 100% hack proof anyway) and a force disconnect feature can be reverse engineered to gain access to an account; it's a two way street.

    Think of this analogy: It's better to have thin air to nowhere than a well fortified door that leads to something of value to you. I'm not tiring to shoot down your idea for fun, i'm merely pointing out how it is.
    If someones computer is compromised to the point where it is vulnerable to MiM attacks, then losing their SE account details should be way down on the list of things to be worried about
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    Having an opinion does not make you right or wrong, it simply means you have an opinion. Don't get irritated when people don't agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baneus View Post
    If someones computer is compromised to the point where it is vulnerable to MiM attacks, then losing their SE account details should be way down on the list of things to be worried about
    Which is the point I have been trying to make. If they are able to force DC you, then your account has already been compromised. Whether force DC is there or not, they have your account, and when they find you offline they taking your stuff.
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    They could add it as part of the OTP app, so itd be locked to only a single device thats directly connected to the account.
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    i see no problem with force disconnection on other MMO i played.
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