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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    Thief would be a Rogue with 5 new abilities to make it into a Thief. I've said this before but just because SE didn't want thief as a class doesn't mean it won't be a job. They left the doors open at E3 by mentioning that Rogues were once thieves so imagine 5 new abilities taught to us by an elder master Thief who rejected the new lifestyle Rogues would achieve

    On topic: I'd love to see Samurai but would mostly want to see Thief or Blue Mage
    No, Rogue is Thief.

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    Truthfully, I wanted the job to be called “Thief,” but the development team wouldn’t have it (laughs). You see, there are guild headquarters in each city for all of the different classes, but if we had a class called “Thief,” it would have to be some kind of underground organization since it wouldn’t make sense to just be out in the open and it would be difficult to include in the main scenario. I told them, well, Limsa Lominsa is a port town and it was once overrun with pirates (laughs)…. but as Thancred pointed out, to properly organize it, the guild would have to be recognized by the nation at least to some extent, and it would be strange if they kept calling themselves “Thieves.” Also, the dual wielding nature of rogues is a form of martial arts that has some respect among Eorzeans, so we intended Rogue to be the Thieves of today.
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    The English translation goofed, Naoki never said "job" but the English shows that he says that.
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    Last edited by Exstal; 07-13-2014 at 10:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
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    I read what you quoted a few times over and what it's saying is that there won't be a Thief CLASS. Yoshida keeps going back to the point of guilds which is where classes originate, it's all pointing to a CLASS. Do Bards have a guild? The NPC is a guy in South Shroud sitting on a stump. Do Monks have a guild? You're learning from the Ala Mhigan about Monk and their internal energy. Warriors? It's a Roegadyn in hidden falls that's shunned for being a monster

    They said Thieves can't be classes, but that won't mean Thief won't eventually be a JOB. Yes he says "We intended Rogue to be the Thieves of today," But like I said, WHAT IF there was a Rogue that rejected Limsa and went on his own. He developed new skills on his own or learned from others (who've also rejected Limsa) Thief based skills. He's getting old and wants to pass on the skills he learned and that's where we come in. After the final Rogue quest we could get a rumor of an elderly thief and we'd have to investigate being a highly recognized Rogue from the guild

    If I'm wrong in the future, please call me wrong and I'll admit I was wrong. I won't deny what I said. Until then I'll keep my hopes'

    I'm getting way too off topic and in a prior post I posted what I'd like to see added so I'll leave it here
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
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    I wanted to call it Thief.

    That's all you need to know about the thought process and the extend of Naoki's vision of thief in FFXIV.

    名称については……開発チームでも本音を言えば“シーフ”と呼びたいのです(苦笑)。
    About the name, Even though the development team didn't want it said, I wanted to call it Thief. (how I would read it)

    Truthfully, I wanted the job to be called “Thief,” but the development team wouldn’t have it (laughs).

    EDIT: However, since SE can do whatever they please with their game as long as they can make it somewhat reasonable, to say Thief (job) is completely off the table would be foolish. I personally doubt that it'll happen since Ninja is in the game unless they do a throwback to XI.

    EDIT2: Realized my first link was actually broken
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/122...dia-Interviewf
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    Unlikely for thief. Mainly because they would never add a "Steal" system.
    Mug: deals damage and takes a meager amount of Gil. Besides the steal gil part Mug would work out decently

    There's also abilities from older games with SATA (support attacks to remove/add enmity to party members; will be nice for the overzealous DPS and tank swapping) , Zidane's Treasure Hunter ability (forgot the name but got stronger with more steals), Flee (faster movement speed for X seconds), etc
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    There's only one class I would love to see added to the game: Blue Mage. I want a class so genuinely different to everything else we've got so far that it literally stands in its own style.

    Instead of being granted skills simply from levelling, you would go out into the wilderness to do battle and learn the skills from your opponents. Skills to heal, skills to harm, skills to protect. It could be the first true hybrid class, able to fill multiple roles rather than being a plain DPS or Healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    There's only one class I would love to see added to the game: Blue Mage. I want a class so genuinely different to everything else we've got so far that it literally stands in its own style.

    Instead of being granted skills simply from levelling, you would go out into the wilderness to do battle and learn the skills from your opponents. Skills to heal, skills to harm, skills to protect. It could be the first true hybrid class, able to fill multiple roles rather than being a plain DPS or Healer.
    Maybe add some lore-based stuff into the mix. Keepers of the Moon Mi'qotes (100s of years ago) were known to prey on lalafells.
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    After the hunt, anything with widescan.


    ...but on a serious note, blue mage or mystic knight.
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    PUPPETMASTER

    Sidenote: a PROPER pup with expensive or questable parts and it's own job which makes pup one of the deepest and most hardcore jobs with high level of customization in FF history.

    Also the amount of love needed to create your own perfect automaton forms a bond between you and your puppet like no other game can. You'll love your automaton and treat it with respect.
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