Hunts were a terrible/irresponsible idea

[Azurymber]

People have been complaining about odin and behemoth lag since release.
And it is still an obvious problem that affects many people, especially on legacy servers.

So why would any dev think up a new system with 10 new odin/behemoths, with even better rewards?

I've been to 2 S-rank hunts so far (one i was essentially first one there), and both were so packed full of people that I couldn't see a thing. One caused my game to crash (and it pretty well never crashes)

Other hunts are farmed nearly non stop by multiple parties
And if you're a healer... well don't be a healer. If a group gangs up on a B and you are decked out in gear with cleric stance on, you still wont do enough damage to land more than 1 mark

Overall, this is one of the worst systems i have ever seen implemented into a game.
A massive spam and lag fest, for some of the most desired items.
Really unbalanced.
And generally boring. (unless you like mindlessly running around for 5 hours, which I admit can be fun in some circumstances)

Everyone asked for open world content. But I don't think this is what they meant.
At the least, lag and mob invisibility should have been fixed before implementing it.

Edit: just did an A-rank as an i99 healer, was there from the start, did as much dmg as i could... 2 allied seals
The system clearly doesn't work

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

Lag? What lag? What kind of a rig are you running?

Used to be on PS3 and the lagfest was off and on there. I'm now plowing through everything with a PS4. Haven't had any problems since.

[Azurymber]

a PC. and it's not just me. On Balmung there are -normal- mass disconnects at things like odin, behemoth, and now S rank hunts. It's not one person lagging. the server kicks off like 50 people+ at once.

[SeleneVenizelos]

+1.

The hunt system is very poorly conceived. Honestly, it's amazing that it passed quality control to be added to the patch. Monsters are dead before people can get credit. If you wait to let others get credit, you don't get credit. B Rank Elite Marks are dead in seconds giving pretty much nobody except the claimer a chance in hell. The last live letter feels like a total troll now we know how the hunt system works.

I've spent about six hours today hunting these and I have 99 Marks to show for it. I've seen ten different... DIFFERENT A Rank monsters die as I get there because, guess what? People kill them because they don't care about other people. SE, you need to learn if people can be jerks with content they will be. You said people would need to shout in zones for help? Oh they do. But the moment they smell blood, the monsters die.

I've seen a good couple hundred marks evaporate before my eyes today and the one time I was there in time I did the decent thing and turned, to let others have time to get there. How stupid of me because I didn't get credit.

Great reward for being a nice person. Nothing.

The whole system needs fixing. I've played your MMOs for years and this is the worst system you have ever released. Even Abyssea was better than this garbage.

[Azurymber]

+1.
The whole system needs fixing. I've played your MMOs for years and this is the worst system you have ever released. Even Abyssea was better than this garbage.

I quit ffxi because of abyssea... and I have to admit, I agree with you. Abyssea was leagues better than this. I love the concept of hunts. And the daily hunts are fun. But by daily hunt standards it will take ONE MONTH to get a peice of alexandria.... that is ridiculous.

[SeleneVenizelos]

I nearly forgot to mention the radar users. Miraculous how the same Free Company always know the moment a monster spawns, or how the same guy (coincidentally, the leader of that company) makes it to every monster in time to get credit. The one monster that I found before anyone today had five people there the second it spawned... people who I passed AFK at the camp on my way through the zone. I was the only person anywhere near this monster and people showed up and started fighting as I was telling my linkshell where it was. Doesn't take long to type <pos>.

It's bad enough that this system makes it difficult to get anything out of, it's even worse that once again, just like in XI for years on end, the people using third party tools will rule the roost. Nothing was done to stem this early in XI's life, for the good of this game's future do something about it ASAP.

[SeleneVenizelos]

I quit ffxi because of abyssea... and I have to admit, I agree with you. Abyssea was leagues better than this. I love the concept of hunts. And the daily hunts are fun. But by daily hunt standards it will take ONE MONTH to get a peice of alexandria.... that is ridiculous.

Abyssea made a nice change, because it wasn't all dependent on direct competition. Once you got your spawns, they were yours and yours alone, on demand. It improved even more when they added multiple spawn points and key items to chests. But the system as a whole felt very rushed and botched. They had the potential to make something epic out of abyssea and failed, in my opinion. They've done the same with hunts except somehow failed even worse.

The potential for enjoyment with hunts is massive. I was super excited it was added and it makes the disappointment even worse. It's obvious to anybody who's played MMOs for awhile how much this system would suck with the way it currently is. It's honestly astonishing it made it through checks. I can't find words to express how much it surprises me. I could have told SE from playing with it for thirty minutes that 99% of people wouldn't get credit on anything.

[HeroSamson]

its expected whoever claims and kills gets the full reward.

Then you have to wait for it to spawn again, it seems just like a side thing to do when you are bored.

I didn't expect this to be something big but everyone else has I guess.

I bet most of you thought of monster hunter the game, though that would of been fun its another games idea.

[SeleneVenizelos]

its expected whoever claims and kills gets the full reward.

It is? We were promised the exact opposite. The most recent occasion was on Monday in the Letter from the Producer. As for waiting for it to spawn again, that is a meaningless comment. B Ranks give 5 Marks (Yippee), A Rank 20, S Rank 50. I ran to an S Rank earlier in Southern Thanalan the moment somebody in my LS announced they'd found it. It was not claimed or engaged at the time. By the time I got there after immediately teleporting to Forgotten Springs, it was dead. An S Rank! It's just terribly flawed in every possible way.

[Mugiawara]

this is to be expected of course. like you said, its basically behe/odin because the problem is, you have 50 million people
+ their grandma's zerging and people lag and dc. not only that, if the HP is low, they need to bump it up A LOT
so people can get credit. why haven't they learned from the horrible hell of behe/odin, we'll never know.
right now, ppl will just hurry and kill as fast as humanly possible and screw off other ppl.
too many cons with this right now, needs more time in oven.