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    Frontlines, no credit for knockback kills?

    I've noticed when you kill someone in PVP with a knockback it says "person was defeated." but not "by you". I'm also pretty sure it's not counted in the kill count when the game is over.

    Could this be addressed? My favorite kills are knocking people off high places and I see no reason why this isn't shown in my kill count.
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    You should get the kill, even though technically it was gravity and the sudden stop that did the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gugnir View Post
    You should get the kill, even though technically it was gravity and the sudden stop that did the job.
    If that's the case then it's really your insides shattering from the impact that kills them and not gravity.
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    So you're the person that has probably knocked me to my doom..
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    I don't see how this is really a problem. I mean, everyone gets the same exp and marks in the end, based on where their GC finished. But I guess its just another one of the little things where you wanna know that you did better than other people, so eh, why not. 8D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danbo05 View Post
    I don't see how this is really a problem. I mean, as long as you're winning, you all get the same amount of exp in the end. 8D
    It's not really about the exp... I mean, at the end of the match they show your kills and such. There isn't much of a point to it, but it wouldn't be right for it to display inaccurate results.
    I usually get 2-4 kills a match knocking people off the edge so its disheartening to see it shows I only got a few "legit" kills
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    It's not really about the exp... I mean, at the end of the match they show your kills and such. There isn't much of a point to it, but it wouldn't be right for it to display inaccurate results.
    But you didn't do the finishing blow. Only the last hitter gets the kill point. If you were chasing me and I killed myself by jumping off or getting killed by neutrals I don't see why anyone would award you the kill. Getting pushed off means that a neutral element did the finishing blow, not you. Otherwise we might as well award the kill to the person who did most damage to the player and no one does that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyuZero View Post
    But you didn't do the finishing blow. Only the last hitter gets the kill point. If you were chasing me and I killed myself by jumping off or getting killed by neutrals I don't see why anyone would award you the kill. Getting pushed off means that a neutral element did the finishing blow, not you. Otherwise we might as well award the kill to the person who did most damage to the player and no one does that.
    You jumping off and getting pushed off are two different circumstances. If I'm clever/lucky enough to shove you off a cliff to kill you, that still speaks of my skill/fortune. Furthermore, if you see no way of escaping with your life intact (making you choose between the cliff or the sword), your attackers have won by forcing your hand (checkmate!). Being able to jump off and kill yourself doesn't mean that Titan didn't beat you.

    In League of Legends at least, if you're killed by a minion, turret or monster, the last enemy player to damage you gets kill credit. Only by completely escaping combat for several seconds (a long time!) can you reset this. I'm not sure how many other PvP games do this, but it seems accurate to me.

    In the end, it's up to SE to decide if they want to allow Kill-Denies or change the system to be more intelligent about gravity-murder. It doesn't really matter as far as winning and losing goes, but it strikes me as weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyuZero View Post
    Getting pushed off means that a neutral element did the finishing blow, not you.
    So basically if I pushed you off a cliff in real life and you died, it's gravity's fault and I didn't murder you?

    Cool.
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