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    [ITALIAN PEOPLE ONLY] Italian Coil Guides ;)

    Hi there! - writing in engish so that everyone understands, even if this is for italian people -
    I'm italian and I was asked to write down some helpful guides for the Allgame site, so I completed these ones, only in italian, just for you
    I recommend both reading these AND watching a video walkthrough, to get the information you need and also see it while it's shown on the battlefield.
    My favourite video walkthroughs on YouTube are MrHappy's, he is really helpful explaining all enemies, mechanics and objectives for each turn.
    Now, here are the guides:
    Relic Quest: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...php?f=57&t=845
    Ifrit HM: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...php?f=57&t=857
    Garuda HM: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...php?f=57&t=858
    Titan HM: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...php?f=57&t=869
    T1: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...php?f=57&t=886
    T2 0-click: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...php?f=57&t=956
    T2 normal way: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...hp?f=57&t=1126
    T3: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...php?f=57&t=971
    T4: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...php?f=57&t=972
    T5: http://allgamestaff.altervista.org/f...hp?f=57&t=1136 work in progress
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    Last edited by YanDere; 07-13-2014 at 10:23 PM.

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    Wooonderful job! Will be very precious for me, especially Titan now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Wooonderful job! Will be very precious for me, especially Titan now
    *blush*
    I love writing guides so, I hope these will be helpful ^^
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    Wtf? You wrote a guide for ADS with the enrage exploit? No Allagan Rot, no High Voltage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZanderMist View Post
    Wtf? You wrote a guide for ADS with the enrage exploit? No Allagan Rot, no High Voltage?
    Yes, because until they modify the fight mechanics there's no reason to play the hard way :P
    It's like writing a T4 guide about waiting that wave 3 begins to start attacking, there's no reason people would do it.
    As soon as SE changes the fight, I'll provide information about the other method, but honestly I don't actually think this is going to happen soon :3
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    Well then, you should at least explain to wait for the clicks to reach 1 before engaging ADS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZanderMist View Post
    Well then, you should at least explain to wait for the clicks to reach 1 before engaging ADS.
    Thought I had wrote it, updated it. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanDere View Post
    Yes, because until they modify the fight mechanics there's no reason to play the hard way :P
    It's like writing a T4 guide about waiting that wave 3 begins to start attacking, there's no reason people would do it.
    As soon as SE changes the fight, I'll provide information about the other method, but honestly I don't actually think this is going to happen soon :3
    With competent people, the "hard way" isn't hard, and you beat it a lot faster. You really shouldn't encourage people to use the cheap way to win because they don't learn anything that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    With competent people, the "hard way" isn't hard, and you beat it a lot faster. You really shouldn't encourage people to use the cheap way to win because they don't learn anything that way.
    I see what you are talking about, but I repeat: when you play a game, you always try to reduce the possibility of wiping. In order to do so, if there's a "cheap way" that doesn't take advantage of bugs or programming errors, then that's the way you should do it.
    I don't see the 0 click method as a "cheap way", but as "the fastest and easiest way to win", and that's what everyone looks for.
    And anybody who has to learn anything about their job mustn't enter t2, all you have to learn is right before the relic quest.
    At least, this is my opinion.
    Not upset, not angry, just discussing
    Thanks for giving your opinion, peace and love XD
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    when you play a game, you always try to reduce the possibility of wiping.
    Actually, I try to minimize the amount of time spent. Normal way = faster. If your team is competent, there shouldn't be a significant possibility of wiping. You should teach people to be the best players they can be, not to find the easiest way out.

    I'm not trying to be abraisve here I'm just saying if you do it the normal way the result will be faster clears + more skilled players.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 01-07-2014 at 09:50 AM.

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