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  1. 07-24-2014 11:43 PM #1
    Kenji1134
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    Flash is ~495 base potency, reduced to 75% by Defiance, then doubled... So 742.5
    Steel Cyclone is 200 base potency, 3x natural hate mod, no reduction from Defiance, and doubled... 1200
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  2. 07-25-2014 06:33 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    Flash is ~495 base potency, reduced to 75% by Defiance, then doubled... So 742.5
    Steel Cyclone is 200 base potency, 3x natural hate mod, no reduction from Defiance, and doubled... 1200
    Flash enmity potency reduced by Defiance? It doesn't do any physical damage, how can it be reduced? Just curious..
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  3. 07-25-2014 08:16 AM #3
    Kenji1134
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    Yeah its reduced.
    Its also reduced by 20% by Shield Oath.
    However Flash does get the 20% buff from Maim...

    I guess the way Flash "works" - going off the the data from the enmity meter - is that it is calculated "like" damage, but with zero variance (no +-5% range, always the same value for a given set of stats), and whatever "damage" it would have done is multiplied by zero at the end, but hate is still applied.

    So it suffers from general (player based) output reducing abilities, IE Shield Oath, Defiance, Determination Down.
    It also benefits from player based buffs, though really just Maim.
    And it does not seem to be affected by mob mitigation abilities. For example, you can Flash a mob that has Sentinel on it, like the Gigas guys near the entrance to CT/ST, and it will generate the same amount of threat whether they have Sentinel on or not.
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  4. 07-25-2014 09:49 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
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    Iirc, Flash is modified by weapon damage and attack power; Defiance and Shield Oath reduce damage dealt by a set amount (25% and 20%), they do not reduce your attack power or weapon damage rating, so Flash should generate more enmity in each tank's respective enmity stance.
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  5. 07-25-2014 03:48 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    Yeah its reduced.
    Its also reduced by 20% by Shield Oath.
    However Flash does get the 20% buff from Maim...
    Flash is not reduced by Shield Oath nor Defiance. There are people out there who already did the math and theorycrafted this out. Don't try to guess.
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