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  1. 07-25-2014 08:16 AM #1
    Kenji1134
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    Yeah its reduced.
    Its also reduced by 20% by Shield Oath.
    However Flash does get the 20% buff from Maim...

    I guess the way Flash "works" - going off the the data from the enmity meter - is that it is calculated "like" damage, but with zero variance (no +-5% range, always the same value for a given set of stats), and whatever "damage" it would have done is multiplied by zero at the end, but hate is still applied.

    So it suffers from general (player based) output reducing abilities, IE Shield Oath, Defiance, Determination Down.
    It also benefits from player based buffs, though really just Maim.
    And it does not seem to be affected by mob mitigation abilities. For example, you can Flash a mob that has Sentinel on it, like the Gigas guys near the entrance to CT/ST, and it will generate the same amount of threat whether they have Sentinel on or not.
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  2. 07-25-2014 09:49 AM #2
    Skull_Angel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
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    Iirc, Flash is modified by weapon damage and attack power; Defiance and Shield Oath reduce damage dealt by a set amount (25% and 20%), they do not reduce your attack power or weapon damage rating, so Flash should generate more enmity in each tank's respective enmity stance.
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  3. 07-25-2014 03:48 PM #3
    silvach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    Yeah its reduced.
    Its also reduced by 20% by Shield Oath.
    However Flash does get the 20% buff from Maim...
    Flash is not reduced by Shield Oath nor Defiance. There are people out there who already did the math and theorycrafted this out. Don't try to guess.
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  4. 07-25-2014 06:03 AM #4
    Uliq
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    Is flash multiplier the same on war and pld? War doesn't give the blind status.
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  5. 07-28-2014 10:51 PM #5
    LalaRu
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    If the problem was the oath to be refreshed, will check it with FC, I'm really curious if oath kept automatically active will loses all its effects and need be refreshed manually.
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  6. 07-29-2014 01:57 AM #6
    High_Timesw
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    I noticed this as well right after the shield oath persisting through death change. IL109 PLD, I can keep hate but it seems much harder to do so on a grp of mobs. Constantly losing one and having to provoke it back, where before I didn't have to pay attention. It is frustrating losing mobs, by the time I get that one back, I lose another. Very noticeable in hullbreaker, I had to adjust my rotations quite a bit to make sure I kept hate on the whole grp.
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  7. 08-04-2014 05:53 AM #7
    chidarake
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    you know I was just wondering if it was a mechanic built into the new dungeons, as that is really the only place that has changed in a agro sense,.?

    hullbreaker is defo the harder place to keep hate than any other dungeon. especially if the dps is over-geared compared to you. as it defo sucks when an enemy is pulled from you and you haven't even had time to cycle one combo after initial pull. (of course that could be over eager dps trying to rush things too)
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    strange awareness of ghosts that no longer haunt this shell.
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