Thread: Did 2.3 create enmity issues for tanks?

I've never run into the problem myself, but I think the main issue comes from the increasing discrepancy in attack power between [standard] tanks and dps. Each ilvl increase is giving dps a much larger increase in AP than the standard vit build tank, and their enmity modifiers just can't keep up with the difference in damage output. If Tanks' AP was to be modified by vit rather than str, this wouldn't be an issue and tanking accessories would be as powerful as their dps/healing counterparts.

Originally Posted by RaineAmorie

@Angel: I stacked 30 STR and still have occasional issues with enmity.

This is judging from your current lodestone profile, but it would make sense why you may have issues holding hate if going up against i80+ dps; I'm sorry, but ~20+ ilevels of difference will definitely stand out and even loading 30 attribute points into str won't make much difference [while also using vit accessories].

Tanks' enmity multiplier should be able to handle the damage <> hate out-put of similarly geared dps, but with FFXIV's current model it seems like dps' damage <> hate growth will surpass tanks' hate multipliers sooner or later without planned stat cutbacks.

Originally Posted by Gaddes

Not really seeing it as much with WARs, but I've been seeing a LOT of PLDs having hate/enmity problems while playing the new content... tanks are constantly getting mobs pulled off of them, and I was wonder if perhaps the change in 2.3 to keep Shield Oath constantly applied might have messed up its enmity?

Reapplying Shield Oath manually might fix the problem. If you're losing threat to a BLM, you'll have to learn how to play around the potency buffs they got.

I main WAR and haven't had a single issue. The few times I've done anything as a PLD this patch (hunts mostly), I only lose enmity to a better geared tank.

From what little I tanked on PLD since the patch, I have noticed no difference whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Aethergoggles

Hmm I had a similar but different problem in SV yesterday, in the final boss the whm decided to pull before I could get a shield lob off, ane even though I instantly pulled hate and all aggro bars showed me as top, he just continually went for the white mage as if he had top emnity.

This is normal enemy behavior; once an action is qued against one player, it is executed regardless of who has hate [unless interrupted].

Originally Posted by Aethergoggles

Hmm I had a similar but different problem in SV yesterday, in the final boss the whm decided to pull before I could get a shield lob off, ane even though I instantly pulled hate and all aggro bars showed me as top, he just continually went for the white mage as if he had top emnity.

Stone Vigil (Hard)?
That is the mechanic of that fight, they can not be tanked. Dodge-tastic

Originally Posted by Destain

Stone Vigil (Hard)?
That is the mechanic of that fight, they can not be tanked. Dodge-tastic

ah, yeah, I forgot about SV hard boss, fun fight there. Drop tank stance and just go all out, haha.

SV hard has shown some strange hate issues for myself and my healer. I have to fight him for aggro constantly (something that is not an issue in any other dungeon) and if a mob does get on him, almost no amount of moves on my part will pull it back off before it kills him flat out. I've noticed some difficulties in other parties as well, though its most noticeable there. We've been watching it after a few runs and its most certainly not an issue of player performance or item level. I'd be curious to see if this is some sort of bug or...I don't even know. But it does seem to happen ever since 2.3