Hunts: There is no problem with design.

[Kat_Manx]

Square Enix did design it a bit poorly but the REAL problem here is (and you all know it, if you would just admit it) that people are "not nice," and refuse to team up and wait so EVERYBODY can get rewards.

But hey, you're always more important than anyone else.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Square Enix did design it a bit poorly but the REAL problem here is (and you all know it, if you would just admit it) that people are "not nice," and refuse to team up and wait so EVERYBODY can get rewards.

But hey, you're always more important than anyone else.

Uhm... There are serious diminishing returns caused by waiting for people, to the point the guy that found an A-rank might only get 1 seal for a kill. Heck the Idea that the person who finds an elite mark must wait for you in order to kill it is selfish on your part.

[ChriZirhC]

Square Enix did design it a bit poorly but the REAL problem here is (and you all know it, if you would just admit it) that people are "not nice," and refuse to team up and wait so EVERYBODY can get rewards.

But hey, you're always more important than anyone else.

Actually I think its the opposite. I dont think SE expected that the whole server would try to unite and get these marks. What they intended I think is for everyone to compete with each other to get these marks and kill them as fast as they can before some other group sees them and try to take some of the rewards. hence, THE HUNT.

[Jacost]

Square Enix did design it a bit poorly but the REAL problem here is (and you all know it, if you would just admit it) that people are "not nice," and refuse to team up and wait so EVERYBODY can get rewards.

But hey, you're always more important than anyone else.

So you're saying that, after I've spent an hour or more scouring areas to find a mark, I should wait on strangers who were doing something completely different to drop everything and saunter on over so that they can get some free stuff, at my own expense? No; the hunt should reward hunters, not the scavengers that follow in their wake.

Would be a great idea, if the hunter scholars weren't mindless, #$*&#$* idiots.

Yeah, that's probably the second worst part of the whole system, next to the utter waste of bandwidth that is the daily marks.

[whoopeeragon]

So you're saying that, after I've spent an hour or more scouring areas to find a mark, I should wait on strangers who were doing something completely different to drop everything and saunter on over so that they can get some free stuff, at my own expense? No; the hunt should reward hunters, not the scavengers that follow in their wake.

Rewarding the HUNTERS is something I agree with. Rewarding those who are using third-party tools to instantly see all enemies in a zone and their loactions, then zerging the hunts is NOT something I agree with.

[Jacost]

Rewarding the HUNTERS is something I agree with. Rewarding those who are using third-party tools to instantly see all enemies in a zone and their loactions, then zerging the hunts is NOT something I agree with.

Unfortunately there's not much SE can do about that without heavily reprogramming the engine. The entire zone is loaded into the client, and that data can be read without the server picking it up. It's a real shame; there's abusing the system, and then there's outright cheating.

[whoopeeragon]

Unfortunately there's not much SE can do about that without heavily reprogramming the engine. The entire zone is loaded into the client, and that data can be read without the server picking it up. It's a real shame; there's abusing the system, and then there's outright cheating.

I know, it's just plain frustrating. It's almost as bad as the FATE trains, except that FATEs actually showed on the map. Having a crowd of people, from the same FC/LS mind, just waiting at camp, then suddenly turn on their heels and stampede over across the map before anything is called out or anyone else reacting...It's so blatantly cheating.

[Kiokin]

...It's so blatantly cheating.

No it isn't. The point of the hunts is to hunt. The low HP obviously means you aren't supposed to call half the server to help. Kill it yourself or with a small group. The implementation isn't the problem, it's the playerbase trying to make it something it's not.

[Yukiko]

No it isn't. The point of the hunts is to hunt. The low HP obviously means you aren't supposed to call half the server to help. Kill it yourself or with a small group. The implementation isn't the problem, it's the playerbase trying to make it something it's not.

So yea, needing 3 Weeks to finally find the weekly monster?
Thats poor design, sorry, but it is...
Luckily the server is currently helping but same as Odin and Behemoth it will fade away which makes it impossible to find them any more...
Once again SE expect us to do 24/7 only one kind of content while we are forced to do not do any other content!

Same as Chocobo training while we are waiting for DF ...

[whoopeeragon]

No it isn't. The point of the hunts is to hunt. The low HP obviously means you aren't supposed to call half the server to help. Kill it yourself or with a small group. The implementation isn't the problem, it's the playerbase trying to make it something it's not.

Mmhmm. Not cheating whatsoever. Uh-huh.

My point is that if you DO hunt, good, you deserve the reward for getting the kill. If you don't hunt, and use an app to do it for you, you're as good as a RMT ruining the economy.