Hunts: There is no problem with design.

[TheUltimate3]

Lose lose situation.

If it was pure vanity stuff, then you would have complaints that they are practically pointless and you would have far less people out doing it, which would then lead to the usual "Nothing to do in the open world".

You add the raid stuff, and you get half a dozen forum posts about how much a failure hunts are.

They could have used that Leve system thing, but honestly that just creates the illusion of open world, and if it required spawns to be killed to pop those leveNMs, then you just end up with the same situation now.

There was absolutely no way Hunts were going to turn out any differently if they actually intended them to be Open-World and relevant.

[Worm]

If it was pure vanity stuff, then you would have complaints that they are practically pointless and you would have far less people out doing it, which would then lead to the usual "Nothing to do in the open world".

Not true, plenty of people do Treasure Chests for the Bluebird. You're just dismissing their lack of foresight by pretending this is the playerbase's fault, it's not though. This could easily have been fixed by having a few more pets and mounts on the Hunt vendor or by offloading Bloody Logs on to the myth/soldier vendor. Simple fixes.

Instead we've got a bunch of people who are in a manic stir trying to find some magnamanous solution where everyone on the server wins all at once, and you know what? It's not possible because hunts are a zero-sum game. Changing them to a ridiuclous Odin/Behemoth loot Pinata is such an awful solution, however I'm sure that's what we're going to get left with because in the end people want it.