Hunts: There is no problem with design.

[Worm]

You know I really didn't think the apps were a big deal, and I figured people were just assuming the worst.

[Kiokin]

...It's so blatantly cheating.

No it isn't. The point of the hunts is to hunt. The low HP obviously means you aren't supposed to call half the server to help. Kill it yourself or with a small group. The implementation isn't the problem, it's the playerbase trying to make it something it's not.

[Yukiko]

No it isn't. The point of the hunts is to hunt. The low HP obviously means you aren't supposed to call half the server to help. Kill it yourself or with a small group. The implementation isn't the problem, it's the playerbase trying to make it something it's not.

So yea, needing 3 Weeks to finally find the weekly monster?
Thats poor design, sorry, but it is...
Luckily the server is currently helping but same as Odin and Behemoth it will fade away which makes it impossible to find them any more...
Once again SE expect us to do 24/7 only one kind of content while we are forced to do not do any other content!

Same as Chocobo training while we are waiting for DF ...

[Prototype909]

I don't know how anyone can say Hunt isn't flawed, but at the same time there's no way to fix them without making people angry.

If the rewards are good (Which they currently are, almost stupidly so right now) then everyone will want to do them and they will be monopolized (People already reporting 3rd party software being used to track them, hundreds of people raging out every day due to B ranks being pulled early).

If the rewards aren't good then nobody will do the content and it will be ignored or regarded as wasted content.

There is no middle ground to be had here at the moment without serious revamping of the system, people are only zerging Hunts right now because they offer -EVERYTHING-. Myth, Soldiery AND Seals which lead to Sands and Oils. Let's not forget that SE was stupid enough to price Sands and Oils below i70 Vanity Gear in terms of value here.

When people aren't doing Hunts they feel as if they're missing out on something because they are literally the be all end all right now in terms of "reward" in this game. It's a total mess. Don't get me wrong, I hated patch 2.2 - aka the patch of Brayflox 2 pulls but this is even worse. Hunts basically eclipse all other content right now, Party Finder has become a freaking Ghost Town since this patch dropped. Hunts were meant to be a Full Party Endeavor AT MAXIMUM. Instead we have full Linkshells (Leading to like 200+ people per mob sometimes) destroying these things before they can even think, there is no way this is working as intended.

[Jacost]

Yeah umm.. of course you do not have to wait for random people. Just other hunters. :/ Since not all hunters are in the same zone, I assume. That's what hunt linkshells have been made for. To share information.

There's a lot of overlap between the hunting linkshells, so if a mark is called in one it'll be called in others, as well as in the FC's of everyone in them. That's what brings the crowds running. Not to mention that a lot of people in the hunting LS's only joined to be alerted to a call, so they could sit back and reap the rewards without doing anything. Sharing marks should only really be done within your party. And if someone in the party blabs to their FC, which leaks it to the LS's... well, each party needs to be responsible for it's own members.

Honestly, the hunting LS's should only be used to form parties and co-ordinate efforts to spawn S-ranks.

[whoopeeragon]

No it isn't. The point of the hunts is to hunt. The low HP obviously means you aren't supposed to call half the server to help. Kill it yourself or with a small group. The implementation isn't the problem, it's the playerbase trying to make it something it's not.

Mmhmm. Not cheating whatsoever. Uh-huh.

My point is that if you DO hunt, good, you deserve the reward for getting the kill. If you don't hunt, and use an app to do it for you, you're as good as a RMT ruining the economy.

[Amberyl]

If you don't hunt, and use an app to do it for you, you're as good as a RMT ruining the economy.

If using the hardware macros on Razer Synapse is a bannable offence, then this absolutely should be.

[Dyvid]

The rewards are the real issue here, not the system.

1. Remove Oil/Sand and just leave that stuff to Coil/CT
2. Either have Alex be a RNG drop or add it to Grand Company Seal purchase and Hidden Maps as well.

[DeadRiser]

B ranks - soloable. Weren't meant to have 1/4 the entire server to get there to kill

A ranks - party of 8 plus a few more. Again, wasn't meant for 1:/2 the server to get to before you kill it.

S ranks - a lot of people are meant to take these guys down, makes sense to wait for a lot of people to get there. The hp of the mobs are fine.


In all honesty, the design is not bad at all. It's the community with multiple full linkshells congregating to one a rank that's the problem.

[DeadRiser]

Mmhmm. Not cheating whatsoever. Uh-huh.

My point is that if you DO hunt, good, you deserve the reward for getting the kill. If you don't hunt, and use an app to do it for you, you're as good as a RMT ruining the economy.

And I never thought I'd see the day when someone would find a screenshot of this shit. This is why I quit doing hunts. People are cheating and getting away with it. I knew it, and I know one entire small free company is using this to find them.

There is this group of botters that were in hiding spiritbonding in a cave. They figured they weren't gonna get banned and now they are outside of a camp in outer la noscea.

Square, please have 24 hour game managers who find they cheaters. This is out of control.