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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    There's a limit to the amount of DOTs that can be put on a mob. Best thing to do is try to get your DOTs up and not let them drop. Once they drop after the fight is well underway then it's increasingly hard to get them back on. Definitely an issue that SE needs to address.
    The limit is like, 60 debuffs, though. Which, now that I think about it, is 2.5 per person, which is almost certainly not enough. I mean, you'll have the non-stacking debuffs like Rage of Halone, Dragon Kick, Storm's Eye, Storm's Path, Disembowel, Slow (Shadow Flare). That leaves ~54 debuffs, which is spread between everyone, so 2.25 per player? When SMN takes 3 at a minimum? And of course that ignores things like E4E and Virus/Supervirus.

    I mean, a PLD will have good uptime on Scorn but shouldn't be using Fracture (1); WAR should probably drop Fracture in large groups until the debuff limit changes (0); MNK will keep up ToD and Demo (2); LNC has Phleb and CT (2); BRD has WB and VB, plus Foe (2-3); BLM has Thunder (1); SMN has Bio, Miasma, Bio 2, not sure how much the Disease effect of Miasma stays up, Miasma 2 has 30 sec uptime (3-5); healers should provide near 100% uptime on E4E and Virus/Supervirus (1-3). That's a 1.3 rate on the low end, 1.9 at the high, but once you factor in other stuff it gets way worse.

    Factor back in Fracture and throw in healers casting dots and it gets much, much worse. PLD Scorn and Fracture (2), WAR Fracture (1), MNK ToD Demo and Fracture (3), LNC Phleb CT and Fracture (3), BRD WB VB Foe (3), BLM Thunder (1), SMN Bio Miasma Bio 2 Miasma 2 (4), WHM Aero (1), SCH Bio Miasma Bio 2 (3), Healer Virus E4E (2). That's 23 over 9 classes, or 2.55. That's more than the 2.5 we started out allowing, and doesn't include any of the "constants" I talked about before like RoH.

    So, first thing I'd try to get the party to stop doing is Fracture. I mean, even for WAR it's rarely worth it, and it's even less worth it if it's costing a SMN a dot. Next after that if the issue persists would probably be to ask the healers to cut back on dots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    The limit is like, 60 debuffs, though.
    Can a GM confirm this?
    If so, that seems quite drastic. 72 players, 60 debuffs? thats crazy. Better measures should be taken than decreasing the number of dots. Possibly increase the cap, and depending on the amount of Debuffs, decrease their efficiency, something. It almost makes me useless if i only have 1 DoT on a boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geracia2 View Post
    Can a GM confirm this?
    Like, 5 minutes of search. >_>

    Quote Originally Posted by Patch Notes
    The maximum number of statuses that can be inflicted upon notorious monsters and dungeon bosses has been raised to 60.
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