ARC, CON, GLD only

[Delsus]

For the devs, if this game remains ARC, CON, GLD only to do the high rank content after the reforms are done the game will die, very soon after.

People will not level classes because they have to, to play content it should be balanced for all classes to take part.

The fact that there is the common thought that you need to have one of the before mentioned classes to do Dzemeal Darkhold because of the Ogres AOEs this is just bad planning for the monster's attacks. It is pretty much accepted that if you have a melee class, atleast from what I have seen, you will probably fail because of AOEs.

This is locking most of the playerbase out of these raids.

This is not because of ARC being stronger than the other DoW it is entirely because they are a ranged class, the ogre in Dzemael Darkhold NEEDS ballancing to allow other classes into the raid, as I said earlier if this is not fixed very soon the game will die.

Just today I was told that LNC and MRD arent ideal because they arent ranged DD, also if you see a shout for the raid people ask for ARC, CON, GLD not DoW but specific classes, because this is the only high rank content right now it is a huge oversight and NEEDS fixing ASAP.

[Demacia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I

People have already killed it without archers.

[indira]

theres no freaking play search system is whats going to kill the game it damn near forces you to play solo or shout for a party.

[Fated]

Why are you trying to take Goldsmiths into dungeons?

[Raikki]

You need 3 healers and a tank (from my experience, but maybe some people are really awesome and can do it with 2 healers). The 4 remaining slots can be anything really. It's not SE's fault if some raid organizer is misinformed or a jerk and won't accept melee DPS even though they work fine. Try learning the encounter before you cry that melee DPS doesn't work on it. By "try" I mean, go into it knowing it's possible and don't give up just because you can't faceroll it. It took us about a dozen failed encounters but we didn't have to resort to class stacking or terrain exploiting to beat it.

[Delsus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I

People have already killed it without archers.

Well tell that to everyone who says ARC CON GLD only the fact is if the community think its the best way to do somthing it will stick for the life of the game, take Kirin that was a kite fight for anyone on XI who didnt have a zerg setup for their linkshell, most of CoP was job specific Diabolos for one if you didnt have pld, whm, or a stun job you were pretty much out.

The fact is that if the community says how things should be done they stick, lets not forget SE intended NIN to be a DD initially but the community saw that it could tank really well so it was a tank job, you couldnt take a DD NIN setup to anything because according to the community NIN was a tank.

This will end up ARC, CON, GLD for the entire life of the game unless SE does somthing.

[totallynotme]

Why are you trying to take Goldsmiths into dungeons?

Going off-topic to respond to off-topic, but may I just ask why all of a sudden in every single thread there is someone complaining about people using the wrong acronym for gladiator? GLD seems very approporiate, I would rather call a goldsmith by GSM.

Just trolling or could you at least provide the correct acronym by your standards?

[Misha]

theres no freaking play search system is whats going to kill the game it damn near forces you to play solo or shout for a party.

Idk if your being serious, making a joke, or are a huge troll >.< Plenty of non anti-social people use the party search function, especial non NA players... Learn to use the damn party search people lol Be part of the solution not the problem xD

Anyways aside from that , tons of people have np killing it without archers... It's like the people who can't do Toto at 25 yet the last boss is a joke... end with almost full hp n mp everytime I do it with a half competent group. Just gotta learn to move a bit and actually use half decent tactics instead of zombie hittin 1 cure 1 cure 1 cure >.< *sigh*

[miqokini]

Going off-topic to respond to off-topic, but may I just ask why all of a sudden in every single thread there is someone complaining about people using the wrong acronym for gladiator? GLD seems very approporiate, I would rather call a goldsmith by GSM.

Just trolling or could you at least provide the correct acronym by your standards?

Doesn't really matter what anyone's standards are. Gladiator is GLA and Goldsmith is GLD. The end.

Saying GLD for Gladiator just because you like it better that way is only going to confuse people and lead to responses such as this.

[Raikki]

Going off-topic to respond to off-topic, but may I just ask why all of a sudden in every single thread there is someone complaining about people using the wrong acronym for gladiator? GLD seems very approporiate, I would rather call a goldsmith by GSM.

Just trolling or could you at least provide the correct acronym by your standards?

The abbreviations are already in the game, so it's silly if not confusing to use them inappropriately. For example, on a Vintage Haubergeon it says:

Favors: GLA MRD LNC ARM MIN

Vintage Smithy's Gloves say:

Favors: BSM ARM GLD ALC MIN BTN