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    Ryuko's Avatar
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    My chocobo is currently living in his own filth, and I just can't justify buying another stable or doing the magicked broom grind.
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    Nako'li Chalahko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    My chocobo is currently living in his own filth, and I just can't justify buying another stable or doing the magicked broom grind.
    You can't justify growing glazenuts and broombush one time in order to have enough brooms to last you just over 2 months?
    with the math in place, I see it as a perfectly reasonable thing that has been put in.
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    Red Cork
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesden View Post
    You can't justify growing glazenuts and broombush one time in order to have enough brooms to last you just over 2 months?
    with the math in place, I see it as a perfectly reasonable thing that has been put in.
    I'm curious. How long does it take to grow a broom bush and a glaze nut?
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    Mog The'cook
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    Culinarian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDedede View Post
    I'm curious. How long does it take to grow a broom bush and a glaze nut?
    Well first you need to plant for Apricot Kernels, so:

    Week 1 you're planting Honey Lemons and Prickly Pineapples.
    Week 2 is spent growing things for Royal Kukuru Beans, which is planting the Apricot from week 1 next to a Honey Lemon.
    Week 3 you need to plant a Royal Kukuru next to a Apricot for the Glazenut intercross.
    Week 4 you plant your Glazenut.

    The same applies to growing Broombrush so basically you're looking at 1 month until you can make brooms. Even as a small FC you're able to grow both Glaze and Broombrush in the same 8 plot garden though, and if anyone needs help with figuring this all out please feel free to PM me and I'll be glad to help.

    My best advice for any, but especially small, FC looking into Choco raising:

    1. Pool your quest reward foods together in the FC safe. I know everyone wants to train right away but a small stockpile of food later will be beneficial.
    2. Grow for brooms before Choco food as the foods have a very short growth cycle.
    3. Grow basic food for training, you can get like 144 out of a single 3 day garden.
    4. Grow for advanced food.

    I do sympathize that the system seems daunting and stressful at first but you really just need a road map and just keep pushing forward.
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    Last edited by Laurell; 07-15-2014 at 05:38 PM. Reason: Char limit sucks...

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    Sakasa's Avatar
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    Sakasa Kuro
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    Balmung
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    Armorer Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurell View Post
    Well first you need to plant for Apricot Kernels, so:
    Week 1 you're planting Honey Lemons and Prickly Pineapples.
    well rolanberry + pineapple I believe grows faster by a day, but the total math for speed for a single garden (which is strangely doable like they designed it that way) are looking at 21 days - fertilizer adjustment but doing the method of 3 plots for glazenut strain and 3 plots for brushbroom strain leaves 2 slots for krakka which if you use specific combos could lead to extra seeds for Onion Prince or Mimett Gourd, Curiel Root or Tantaplant.

    Also I do not advise this if you can help it as there is a risk you could get no cross breeds as g3 than soil is supposedly 90% success, or only one seed making it impossible to immediately make a cycle for glaze back into glaze as there will be a 10% failure and the fact that no known broombrush back into broombrush exists so you will need a successful cross breed twice or three times for halone or you have tyo go for jute to avoid restarting from the beginning of your strain.
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    Last edited by Sakasa; 07-19-2014 at 12:04 AM.

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    Kio Solais
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Gathering all the necessary seeds and soil and the gestation time of the cycle using only one garden took me about a month for just a few glazenuts. I was too burned out from the process to try any jute or broombush. My FC is very disinterested in gardening but seems to enjoy stabling chocobos so I suppose our only option is to either leave it perpetually filthy and hope there is no Erozean Animal Control warden or just buy a brand new stable. The cost of a single broom on my server is more than a stable from the NPC. I wish they had created a low level synth broom alternative that perhaps wasn't as effective at cleaning and may require a few more uses, but was far more accessible. My FC mates seem to want to help train eachothers birds but not everyone is a high level gatherer and crafter and I can't help but feel that these restrictions are pushing out the casual people that this content was intended for. The people that cared about chocobo also already all had rank 10 and can't even use this content yet. I'm sorry for the negative post, I'm just extremely disappointed in how this was handled and feel broody about it.
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    Mafra Telli
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    Midgardsormr
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    Kio, I can tell you in my case you are correct. I feel no desire to mess with this stable crap. Gardening, raising, and breeding Chocobos was a pretty crappy system in XI as well so I figured they were only going to make it even more convoluted. I really dont get XIV at all. The game itself is so insanely easy and then SE installs these small chunks of fluff content that are just ridiculous in comparison.
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    Aerik Tirel
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I find this equally disappointing.

    My FC doesn't have any gatherers or crafters at high level that can make the brooms or even get the seeds necessary to start the magic dance of gardening needed for glazenuts and broombush.

    Like, why make side content like this such a chore to even get done? I spent 75k on a broom only to find out it was one use only. That's, frankly, a huge load of crap. This is meant to be casual content. Don't put casual content behind grindy restrictions because then no casual players will bother, and considering casuals are FFXIV's largest install base, I'd seriously think SE should reconsider the whole "Stretching out content" thing they're doing.

    Honestly, at this rate, I just kind of wish I hadn't even sunk the FC funds into the whole Chocobo Raising thing, it's just become a waste of time and money.
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    Nako'li Chalahko
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 52
    I'm a casual player, and I have a Botanist with the 2.2 items, I know other casual players with at least one crafter with fully melded gear. Just because you're casuals don't have this, doesn't mean its an issue for all casual players.
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    Red Cork
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesden View Post
    I'm a casual player, and I have a Botanist with the 2.2 items, I know other casual players with at least one crafter with fully melded gear. Just because you're casuals don't have this, doesn't mean its an issue for all casual players.
    You still haven't answered my question. Do you garden the broom materials or buy them?
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