Leveling Desynthesis and Master Demimateria

[Nyalia]

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That's.... an interesting necro. I assume you're quoting a post where I was speculating about how to get FCIIIs or something? It turns out that CRP and BSM are actually the two best at getting FCIIIs right now, using Straight Stepping Stumps and Summoning Bells, due to the tanking of the myth mat market. GSM is definitely the best for Mastercraft, though ARM isn't too terrible (BSM too if you're patient). GSM, WVR, LTW, and ARM are all good for BCIIIs (dungeon dive for i70+ gear, don't craft for those).

The classes are way more balanced than they seemed at first. And, all but two classes (LTW and CUL) can get Mastercraft Demis. Though, CRP doesn't really count, given what they have to do for Mastercrafts (desynth Forager's Fishing Rods)...

[Thrustie]

I think any classes being unable to generate the materia necessary to obtain their new tool is pretty goofy and bad game design. That said, I skilled up LTW before I knew about this and don't really have any desire to up my desynth skill on another job so maybe my opinion is colored by bitterness.

[ruskie]

I think any classes being unable to generate the materia necessary to obtain their new tool is pretty goofy and bad game design.

Atleast crafters get to generate it.... us gatherers are shafted.

[Torquere]

Does anyone else think that the Success Rate is buggy? Personally, no matter what I do in this game, including desynth, it seems that with a 78% success rate I have a 78% fail rate. I think the success rate is more based on an if / then system. For example, if you will smash your keyboard thru your computer screen if you fail, then success rate = 100%. If we let you succeed one time, and this will cause you to try at least three more times until you will smash your keyboard thru your computer screen, then your success rate = 0 % for the next three attempts. The numbers they show on the screen is just some random thing they put up to make you think you are accomplishing something. Agree?

[Nyalia]

Does anyone else think that the Success Rate is buggy? Personally, no matter what I do in this game, including desynth, it seems that with a 78% success rate I have a 78% fail rate.

As I posted in another thread, a lot of that is observation bias. The rest of it is a bad RNG that sometimes runs in streaks. Looking at it longer term, I found the success rates of melding to be pretty accurate. Sure, there were times I'd fail 36 times in a row to meld something with a 11% chance, or 11 times in a row to meld something with a 45% chance, but at the same time, I had plenty of times I pentamelded all materia on an item with zero failures on any of it. The thing is, you don't notice the positive streaks as much as you notice the negative streaks.

Does this mean that if you're failing a lot, you should stop and do something else? Maybe, I'm not that great at statistics, but the RNG does tend to clump more than it should. In the long term, it all evens out anyway.

All that said, I haven't kept track with desynth to see if it has the same problem, and it's not just a misrepresentation of the probability of success. I'll try keeping track in the future to see what happens.

[Xine]

Please tell that to my 200+ failures on a 14% success rate on the same item using the same grade materia over the course of about 6 months before the thing finally stuck.

[Umero]

i80 gear from old ct also give battle demimat III... so that leads to my presumption that only i90 gear gives Mastercraft demimat.

[Umero]

i80 gear from old ct also give battle demimat III... so that leads to my presumption that only i90 gear gives Mastercraft demimat.

I take my word back. I Just got a mastercraft demi from artisian specs (i70 crafting gear)
so, I can now confirm that i70+ can yield either demimat 3 or mastercraft demi.
it's still uncertain that DoW and DoM gear also give mastercraft demi through desynthesis tho.

[Inzoum]

Once you reach the point where ilvl 55 items aren't worth it anymore, it gets very expensive... your leveling options are:
• ilvl 70 crafted items or dungeon drops (up to around 85 Desynth skill, then it gets too slow)
• ilvl 80 dungeon drops (nice success rate / skillup ratio)
• 3-4 meld ilvl 90 crafted items (don't bother before 85 Desynth skill, the success rate will be too low)

For Mastercraft Demimateria, so far I've only obtained them from crafting/gathering ilvl 70 gear. I've Desynthed about 40 Artisan's Spectacles so far. Obtained 5 Mastercraft Demimateria, some Rose Gold Nuggets and some Rose Gold Ingots. The Rose Gold Ingots can be re-crafted into Rose Gold Clasps, which are ilvl 70 desyth and have a chance for a Fieldcraft III Demimateria (3 so far), or materials such as Rose Gold Ingot again (repeat!), or Rose Gold/Darksteel Nuggets

I've never obtained Fieldcraft III or Clear III Demimateria from Artisan's Spectacles directly.

[Royal]

I am reading conflicting information on various sites.can field 3 come from artisan specs?