Leveling Desynthesis and Master Demimateria

[jwang]

For armorer, leatherworker, and weaver (and goldsmith as well in some cases), can't you just run dungeons for i70-i80 gear? This also has the bonus of getting you philo mats to craft other i70 stuff, so even if you don't get the gear you want for desynth, you still get something. If you get gear you can't desynth, just turn it in for seals. This is quite an ingenious way of promoting people to run more dungeons, along with the myth reward increase.

[chidarake]

I will be doing the dungeon drops gear as I get it, but to power level its not exactly time concise..!!

but will be my normal routine was I hit 100...

[Rinaku]

do mastercraft demimateria come from just crafting type gears? or what about i90 battle gears?

[ksufoley]

I've been leveling up CRP and ALC. From what I've seen, those are probably not the best to level since they cannot desynth any gear but weapons and housing items. I will level LTW up shortly just so that it will be easier to get the higher level demimateria. GSM seems like it would be the easiest since jewelry is about 50 percent of your gear and 50 percent of drops in a dungeon.

The field craft and battlecraft come from their respective gear sets much like materia does with spirit bonding from what I've seen. Housing and fish bring in field craft as well.

I can't confirm this but it looks like anything that is dropped from regular dungeons is desynthable. Also CT. I can't confirm ST though since I've only collected Allegan tomes so far. And need to check on coil gear as well.

[Nyalia]

Fish do not bring in Fieldcraft. Fish can only bring in Clear. Housing does bring in Fieldcraft though, I've gotten some that way with the random walls/roofs my retainers love to bring me. (I destroy the evidence for them before the former owner comes looking for it!)

ALC can desynth books, some other weapons (whm, right?), and augmentation items, but not much else. I was originally going to level ALC since I have a bunch of extra primal books from retainers, but I'm now thinking that's a bad idea in the longer run.

CRP can desynth bows, spears, and... err... yeah.

GSM is the best class by an order of magnitude due to design decisions I don't understand. Aetheryte Rings are the cheapest desynth in the game, costing only a water cluster and ~0.3 of a rose gold nugget. It's also a way to magically turn NQ rose gold nuggets into HQ rose gold nuggets. GSM can also desynth all PvP accessories, which are cheaper than other PvP gear, and they can desynth every single Darklight accessory. In addition to all those great things, they can desynth Artisan Spectacles, which are 1/5th the price of any other Artisan item, making them able to generate 5x as much Mastercraft Demimateria as any other desynth class. Not to mention, they can also desynth some primal weapons.

CUL gets you swimsuits, which is cool, but nothing else.

BSM can desynth several primal weapons, which is great. It's pretty expensive to level though. It can also desynth many of the Artisan Tools, if you really want to do that.

WVR, ARM, and LTW can desynth CT gear, I think? Dunno if there's a point to doing so. Also, Divine gear (from the new dungeons), but again, I don't know if there's anything special about it.


I think I'm going to do GSM, BSM, and then either WVR, ARM, or LTW just to see what the i80 armor yields. Not sure which of those, but ARM is tempting since I main PLD.

[Torquere]

Does anyone else think that the Success Rate is buggy? Personally, no matter what I do in this game, including desynth, it seems that with a 78% success rate I have a 78% fail rate. I think the success rate is more based on an if / then system. For example, if you will smash your keyboard thru your computer screen if you fail, then success rate = 100%. If we let you succeed one time, and this will cause you to try at least three more times until you will smash your keyboard thru your computer screen, then your success rate = 0 % for the next three attempts. The numbers they show on the screen is just some random thing they put up to make you think you are accomplishing something. Agree?

[Nyalia]

Does anyone else think that the Success Rate is buggy? Personally, no matter what I do in this game, including desynth, it seems that with a 78% success rate I have a 78% fail rate.

As I posted in another thread, a lot of that is observation bias. The rest of it is a bad RNG that sometimes runs in streaks. Looking at it longer term, I found the success rates of melding to be pretty accurate. Sure, there were times I'd fail 36 times in a row to meld something with a 11% chance, or 11 times in a row to meld something with a 45% chance, but at the same time, I had plenty of times I pentamelded all materia on an item with zero failures on any of it. The thing is, you don't notice the positive streaks as much as you notice the negative streaks.

Does this mean that if you're failing a lot, you should stop and do something else? Maybe, I'm not that great at statistics, but the RNG does tend to clump more than it should. In the long term, it all evens out anyway.

All that said, I haven't kept track with desynth to see if it has the same problem, and it's not just a misrepresentation of the probability of success. I'll try keeping track in the future to see what happens.

[Xine]

Please tell that to my 200+ failures on a 14% success rate on the same item using the same grade materia over the course of about 6 months before the thing finally stuck.

[Umero]

i80 gear from old ct also give battle demimat III... so that leads to my presumption that only i90 gear gives Mastercraft demimat.

[Royal]

I am reading conflicting information on various sites.can field 3 come from artisan specs?