i90 Crafted Rings for Warrior --> Is it worth it?

[Shinkyo]

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Is skill speed really worth it? I'm kinda afraid to run out of TP on long fights like T5/T8.
I was gonna go for Topaz melded with 13 STR, 9 Acc, and a choice of 12 Crti/8 Det/ 12 SS
The alternative would be Ruby with 15 VIT, 9 Acc, and a choice of 12 Cri/8 Det/ 12 Parry

I just tend to think that Crit is better for WAR because of the wrath stacks and IR all stacking together. I've always considered SS to be a bad secondary stat (though SE seems to put a lot of it on Tank gear).

[Alistaire]

Ignore secondary stats for a second.

Full i90 Crafted: 65 STR and 75 VIT
Full i110 Fending: 105 VIT
Full i110 Slaying: 90 STR

Would you trade 30 VIT for 65 STR? In pretty much every scenario, the answer is yes.
Would you trade 25 STR for 75 VIT? Maybe not in T8 and old content, but in any situation with a threatening mob the answer is probably yes.

Gryphonskin was the go-to tanking set if you had money back at the i90 cap. It's the same thing here. Plus, you don't need to wait on lucky coil drops.

By the way, I'd rather use Topaz accessories and meld STR to get the inherent 16 Parry. Don't completely ignore accuracy either.

Last part would be true if parry wasn't actually a bad stat. Go STR for the skill speed, especially on WAR. Quicker wrath; more IB's. WAR won't have tp issues outside of overpower spam.

My setup has each melded with acc iv, vit iv, vit iv, crit iii, acc iii.

[Giantbane]

Last part would be true if parry wasn't actually a bad stat. Go STR for the skill speed, especially on WAR. Quicker wrath; more IB's. WAR won't have tp issues outside of overpower spam.

My setup has each melded with acc iv, vit iv, vit iv, crit iii, acc iii.

Skill speed has even less of a benefit than parry does in terms of mitigation for a WAR.

And that's only for fights where you're spamming IB on cooldown. If you're actually saving IB for a particular move (death sentence, titan table flip, or whatever), then all of the mitigation benefits of skill speed are lost entirely.

It's also the worst DPS stat currently.

[Rbstr]

It's the best hybrid str/vit option, for sure.

But jesus it's an expensive set.
Especially if you don't have all the accuracy parts you need on the left hand. It's just too rich for my tanking blood.

[Xenosys]

Most definitely worth it and IMO best in slot by far.

My build: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/5331858/
30 points into Str

I use Lava toad eggs for the little bit of acc i need. The only piece i do not have is the HA belt then i will be my version of BiS
my str is 533 and Vit over 570 in party with food. My HP pool of 9.7k which is more than needed to MT all the content. Also to note that Ruby is the way to go and not topaz, the reason for this is if you notice my SS is 421, and that seems to be the magic number to get in the extra hit from your opening unchained>Berserk>internal release combo.

[SirTaint]

They aren't needed at all. Unless you are in one of the few group that plan on doing savage coil.

T9 is tuned for around i100 and doable at less ilvl than that. T8 is already MTed in full str.

When 2.4 rolls around they are more then likely be very useful until then save your Gil.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Wrath stacks are negligible for crit, WAR doesn't magically get more out of it.

Ruby with Det or Crit, the choice doesn't really matter.

[kensatsu]

One question, to got this i90 craft accesories for pld ?
i already did it for the ring.
Trade 30 vit for 64 str ?

[SirTaint]

Losing 30vit for 64str is def worth it. (98% of the time)

But the question is, is it necessary right now? Probably cost 10mil to penta meld all your accessories and nothing short of savage coil needs them.

2.4 they will be needed for progression groups but not for the standard player base.

[RhazeCain]

If you value both offense (str) and defense (HP), then i90 crafted is unquestionably best. If you want purely one way or other, then no. *Necessary*? No of course not, but sure would be nice.

As for those saying never need more than 9k HP, I don't buy that. If you're not planning on doing anything harder than t6, ever, then maybe so.

T7 there are times you might tank 2 dancers or boss+dancer or prosecutor. Run your cooldowns and you're probably fine with 9k. But more HP is nice.

T8 I've been quad hit for ~10k HP a couple times. Boss auto + Boss cleave + Dread auto + Dread rotoswipe. 4 hits in 1 sec, totaling right around 10k. Can't guarantee what cooldowns were in effect there. But let's assume none there and you'll have up Vengeance or Rampart or something for Dread -- that let's you live. Unless healer let you be at 75% during the wrong moment. So I totally believe those that say it's been done with pure STR setup. But they had to tiptoe around a possible insta-kill -- I'd rather give up the STR and not waste my group's time with the occasional tank death.

T9 - can't say. I've not done this one enough.

And Savage + future content I'm sure you'll find use for the HP.