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    So why can't square do something like daz's Genesis (google it if you don't know about it)? I'm not a fan of Gene myself (poser user) but something like this would cut down on their time. I'm surprised they don't have some sort of feature like this to shorten their development time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    One set of equipment is a vague term which could mean many things.

    One set of equipment could mean:

    Sabotons, Greaves, Cuirass, Tassets, Helmets etc in all difference metals (tiers) and all different colours, with several different embellishments and decorations. So that is like 100 different items or more.

    6 months for 100 or more items doesn't seem so bad.
    It's just that after all reskinns and seeing absolutely nothing but a kabuto and a swimsuit people lose hope.
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    http://www.youtube.com/user/FINALFAN...34/wc0ilSksWBQ

    Skip to 2:30 for the actual armor making.

    In short, each piece has to be made separately in photoshop and then built as a computer sculpture and detailed to meet FF standards.

    See here, also at 2:30, if you want to see what goes into the sculpture model making:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/FINALFAN...38/DEybd106bBU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    It's just that after all reskinns and seeing absolutely nothing but a kabuto and a swimsuit people lose hope.
    This. Soooooo sick of reskins. I don't even care about the dungeons because there is nothing cool and new to get. And, as you probably can guess from my name, I am a fan of the swimsuits. But come on, SE. Months and months of waiting and the only completely unique armor we get is a useless (gameplay-wise) swimsuit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chezen View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/user/FINALFAN...34/wc0ilSksWBQ

    Skip to 2:30 for the actual armor making.

    In short, each piece has to be made separately in photoshop and then built as a computer sculpture and detailed to meet FF standards.

    See here, also at 2:30, if you want to see what goes into the sculpture model making:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/FINALFAN...38/DEybd106bBU
    Your point here is? lol That technique is used for almost every new game since the current gen consoles. couple years now, even rookies who just learning 3d modelling use those techniques. And the pros do it in significantly less time than XIV. Which is making me believe that the XIV team is just not very skilled lol when theres people who do the exact same thing in a lot less time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petdo View Post
    Try this...
    1) Conceptual design ( artist sketch on paper/ hand draw ) for all races = 3 weeks
    2) Model that concept design with simple wire frame/few texture for ALL RACES = 3-4 weeks
    3) Detailed sculpture for 3D model for all race = 2 months
    4) Texture creation and lightning = 2 Months ( can start after #3 finish for 1 month )
    5) Apply armor physic and touch up = 2 months

    I think it's reasonable timeframe for their design effort. I'm not sure what is the real development lifecycle for make new gear is but I'm sure for 1 things.... there are 8 races to make and that's why it take time a lot.

    Try imagine above work yourself before complain....
    People just don't get how development works, doubt even this makes sense to them lol ... and this is just completely new armor... recolors and reskins can be done insanely fast with the set up they have :P All new equipment prob being saved for ps3 release/jobs ^^ As it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misha View Post
    People just don't get how development works, doubt even this makes sense to them lol ... and this is just completely new armor... recolors and reskins can be done insanely fast with the set up they have :P All new equipment prob being saved for ps3 release/jobs ^^ As it should be.
    Yeah, because, you know, us PC players don't matter and definitely don't care about getting new armor. I mean, it's not like we've been supporting SE all along even though they have yet to live up to their promises. >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by miqokini View Post
    Yeah, because, you know, us PC players don't matter
    You certainly aren't paying for the development of said armor.

    Most accurate statement said in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miqokini View Post
    Again, they should have been more specific. If that's the case, they should have said that it takes 6 months to create 10-20 new sets of armor. That would be much more acceptable, although I'd prefer 20 over 10. 6 months still feels too long even for 10.
    I assume it was like making a show or cartoon. I recall being told it takes 6 months to do an episode of Adventure Time or My Little Pony, it may take 6 months from start to finish with one episode, but they're working on several at a time.
    At least I hope that's the case. For 20 sets of armor in 10 years, those sets better be damn impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Your point here is? lol That technique is used for almost every new game since the current gen consoles. couple years now, even rookies who just learning 3d modelling use those techniques. And the pros do it in significantly less time than XIV. Which is making me believe that the XIV team is just not very skilled lol when theres people who do the exact same thing in a lot less time.
    My point was the process in which it is made. As for length of time, not a single mmo has been nearly as detailed as this game to date. I love scrolling in and being able to see seems and lines of thread in the woven cloth. You can't do that in any other mmo I know of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

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