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  1. #31
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    Empressia's Avatar
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    Carnage Incarnate
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ViviAnimus View Post
    If you're a good BLM you should be on par with DRG. SMN is in my experience still a bit higher. MNK is still king
    Lemme correct that, DPS is RNG MECHANICS DEPENDANT, lemme see ur monk for example if :
    1. t6 got vines in p1,p3 all time, devour icon in p2
    2. t7 got voices and shrieks
    3. t8 depends on ur static assignments
    4. t9 divebombs and all reticle on your head

    I'm pretty sure our GL3 crazed MNK in our static would like to talk to you about how unlucky he is lol

    Anyway on topic, no OP, in t8 training dummy BLM dps range is below DRG at very lucky fire3 proc 5% of all time and below BRD at normal luck 95% of all time, theres no way a DPS who have +/- 100 DPS range is considered to number 1
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  2. #32
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    AniCelestine's Avatar
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    Ani Celestine
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    BLM is now king for burst on demand in coil. They were darn good before but now they are pretty well top of the line in contribution to coil groups as a whole. It's heavily dependent on party make up, but for those situations when you need a quick burst, filling a mage slot with blm is good.

    A well rounded pt can cover each other's weak areas, where before 2nd coil really hurt blms outside of burst, now they are all around viable.
    So you saying blm with cast time of 2.41(estimate) has better burst than DRG that has insta skills, alot of offGCD skills and quite many dmg boosting CD's (Surges, BfB[+30% dmg]). Interesting. Cause I'm pretty sure our drg does 1,2k with Lifesurge + Power surge alone with one jump. Add GCD skills(one before and one after) + one other offGCD skill after the 2nd GCD, and it easily beats blm's 2 Fire I casts(2GCD's), cause procs aren't reliable for burst.
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  3. #33
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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    Lemme correct that, DPS is RNG MECHANICS DEPENDANT, lemme see ur monk for example if :
    1. t6 got vines in p1,p3 all time, devour icon in p2
    2. t7 got voices and shrieks
    3. t8 depends on ur static assignments
    4. t9 divebombs and all reticle on your head

    I'm pretty sure our GL3 crazed MNK in our static would like to talk to you about how unlucky he is lol

    Anyway on topic, no OP, in t8 training dummy BLM dps range is below DRG at very lucky fire3 proc 5% of all time and below BRD at normal luck 95% of all time, theres no way a DPS who have +/- 100 DPS range is considered to number 1
    It's not +/- 100 DPS, on most 4m+ sustained pulls it's not even +/- 20 DPS. 500 is not at all unreasonable to score in T8 as BLM in max gear, and outside of MNK no other class including DRG can hope to consistently reach that (except for insane crits on a very lucky parse). BRD should also be doing the least of anyone, I'm not sure if you meant BLM loses to BRD in 95% of training dummy pulls but if you did that is completely false - I play with HA BRDs capable of near 400 DPS without DRG's buff, and they can't win in T6-8, much less a training dummy.
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  4. #34
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    PenutButter's Avatar
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    Peanut Little
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    In dummy situations, like t8, MNK is still king, but BLM is really not that far behind. Actually, BLM may be better even in t8 because the BRD does not have to play Peon, he can now just throw up another requiem, boosting ALL caster DPS. In most other fights though, BLM is King.

    I haven't really been playing or paying attention much to SMN since the patch but if they do indeed beat BLM, then, like I was worried about, SE screwed up with this patch. I'm going to hang up my MNK now and just focus on my BLM, except for the occasional rare dummy fights.
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  5. #35
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    Uninstall's Avatar
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    Yukairi Ran
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Maybe you should focus on getting better teammates instead.
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