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    Is DPS food even worth using?

    Honestly I don't see any difference between using 2 star risotto food over not using in regards to DPS.

    Aforementioned food gives a paltry +15 det for my MNK which would increase my DPS by practically nothing.

    So, would the best food to use be the ones that the main stat buff is Vit? just to give that extra couple hundred HP. Over DPS food which, practically, gives no real tangible benefit or boost.
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    min/max

    Deviled Eggs (if you need acc) otherwise Buttons in a Blanket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    min/max

    Deviled Eggs (if you need acc) otherwise Buttons in a Blanket.
    Doesn't answer the question XD Black truffle Risotto is the 2 star version of Buttons, and gives a paltry 15 determination. I agree on using Acc food if needed as there is then a tangible benefit, but 15 Det adds practically nothing to your DPS. Hence the original question.

    I know which foods to use. Question is it worth it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Doesn't answer the question XD Black truffle Risotto is the 2 star version of Buttons, and gives a paltry 15 determination. I agree on using Acc food if needed as there is then a tangible benefit, but 15 Det adds practically nothing to your DPS. Hence the original question.

    I know which foods to use. Question is it worth it?
    Well, you get DET and CRIT out of Risotto/Buttons. Theory crafting has shown that capping out on accuracy via gear and using risotto/buttons is superior to purposefully staying below the Acc cap and using deviled eggs to reach the cap (unless your gear doesn't allow to reach the acc cap, then deviled eggs are the way to go). As miniscule the DPS gain from using buff food may seem to you, it still DOES add to your DPS. It also adds to your health pool and therefore increases your survivabiliy. There's no good reason to be lazy/avaricious and not use buff food if you are going for challenging content. Remember that the sum of small increases adds up to a noticeable difference, so if everyone in your raid opts for not using food (as it "adds practically nothing"), then you may end up failing a DPS check you may otherwise have beaten.

    So for challenging content, yes, it's worth it. For trivial content or stuff you have on farm, well, it's not that necessary.
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    yes. 200 hp and extra crit , det is better than nothing,
    who knows it will push you through dps check phase or make you able to survive leads to wipe or kill.

    it is only 1 k / 30 min ( or 40 min by FC buff ).
    and gil is easy to find these days, question is , why not ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodomir View Post
    Well, you get DET and CRIT out of Risotto/Buttons. Theory crafting has shown that capping out on accuracy via gear and using risotto/buttons is superior to purposefully staying below the Acc cap and using deviled eggs to reach the cap (unless your gear doesn't allow to reach the acc cap, then deviled eggs are the way to go).

    So for challenging content, yes, it's worth it. For trivial content or stuff you have on farm, well, it's not that necessary.
    Thats why in original post I asked if using food with main stat Vit is better? XD Not just using foor or not using food. Also using acc food which gives 22 acc over using an a piece of gear that gives 22 det..... I'm already peaking at 370 DPS without using food in turn 8 and just potent poisons/ STR pots. Using risotto wll maybe take me to 371, being generous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Thats why in original post I asked if using food with main stat Vit is better? XD Not just using foor or not using food. Also using acc food which gives 22 acc over using an a piece of gear that gives 22 det..... I'm already peaking at 370 DPS without using food in turn 8 and just potent poisons/ STR pots. Using risotto wll maybe take me to 471, being generous.
    DPS wise using VIT food is not much different from using no food at all ^^

    Let's take a different approach and look at stat weights. Stat weight wise 15 DET is rougly the same as 4-5 STR. On top of DET you also get CRIT from said food. So the stat gain (and therefore the DPS gain) from using food is actually higher than the stat gain from going from an iLvl 90 accesory to a iLvl 100 counterpart (which will only provide you with 3 STR and +1 on each of the secondary stats, provided both the iLvl 90 and iLvl 100 accessory have the same secondary stats). Now would you hold off from upgrading your accessories just because they "practically add nothing" to your DPS and actually add nothing to your survivability?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    I'm already peaking at 370 DPS without using food in turn 8 and just potent poisons/ STR pots. Using risotto wll maybe take me to 471, being generous.
    Going from 370 DPS to 471 is "practically nothing"? (just kidding, you probably meant 371)

    I'd also wager that using buff food probably adds a bit more than 1 DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    Doesn't answer the question XD Black truffle Risotto is the 2 star version of Buttons, and gives a paltry 15 determination. I agree on using Acc food if needed as there is then a tangible benefit, but 15 Det adds practically nothing to your DPS. Hence the original question.

    I know which foods to use. Question is it worth it?
    If you don't cap stats on Risotto, then it's not worth using unless the gain from Risotto is greater than the gain from Buttons.

    According to the gear layout, you don't even cap CRIT/DET with Buttons, so you definitely don't cap with Risotto. The only difference is 4 vitality between the two in that regard. So is it worth it to craft 2-star food for 4 vitality? That's the correct question (the answer is no).
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    Last edited by Exstal; 06-24-2014 at 08:03 PM.

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    It largely depends on what your doing.

    In my FC, we use food for when we're pushing new content/content we have trouble with. But when it comes to things like the Primals/Coil 1, it is pointless. You're basically burning gil so you can beat something you've beaten a hundred times before a handful of seconds faster.

    So, its worth it when your on the bleeding edge and you need every scrap of advantage you can get. When you have something down pat... worthless.
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    I use Apkallu Omelette on my BLM and Devilled Eggs on my Summoner for 2nd coil
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