4 man Dungeon Loot

[Alukard]

Yes, please. I was unable to complete the pilgrim set and it looks like getting gear from these new dungeons will be a hell as well. Let's leave mats in the 2.2's dungeons! They are so cheap that is pointless even selling them on the market.

I half agree, but I also think that 2.2 dungeons need to be changed also. Thinking about the other players still leveling up that joined after 2.2, some of them need these pieces of gear to help Improve their levels, I had a tank in Brayflox HM today with lvl 49 weapon, and most of his gear was very low also. I dread to think how many groups would've abandoned him or kicked him. The most he got from the place was, I think, a darklight earring.

These items used to be bought with Philosophy, why can't they just be bought with Mythology instead? If crafters want to run the dungeon for crafting materials, make them use their Myth Tomes instead. Maybe the prices on MB will even stabilize too.

[Andres_Lonegrief]

I half agree, but I also think that 2.2 dungeons need to be changed also. Thinking about the other players still leveling up that joined after 2.2, some of them need these pieces of gear to help Improve their levels, I had a tank in Brayflox HM today with lvl 49 weapon, and most of his gear was very low also. I dread to think how many groups would've abandoned him or kicked him. The most he got from the place was, I think, a darklight earring.
These items used to be bought with Philosophy, why can't they just be bought with Mythology instead? If crafters want to run the dungeon for crafting materials, make them use their Myth Tomes instead. Maybe the prices on MB will even stabilize too.

You are right. Sure, also Bray, Halatali and Lost City's loots should be changed. Myth Tomes, Soldiery, Allied Seals, GC Seals .. if there is one thing that we don't lack is a variety of currencies ...Including mats in the new dungeons might have been a necessary step back in 2.2 because philo had been removed. However, as of now we can turn back to a more balanced system.

[Nutz]

As much as I like getting crafting mats from dungeons (well, some of them) it is a bit silly. I've had a run that was hardened sap from every chest we opened. It would be better to move the crafting items to the otherwise useless potion/ ether/ elixer chests. I still haven't seen my fistfighter's gloves after capping soldiery nearly every week on expert dungeons through 2.2 and I only have the goggles because my retainer was kind enough to bring them to me.

[Synestr]

Anyone notice if AK or WP drops have changed or did they stay the same? My WHM is currently gearing up and I was going to go the regular route of those two and CT to get to min ilvl to run the new ones, but it's kind of daunting to do so with all the crafting mat drops. I understand they are important, but they aren't even the good ones. Sherry and water should not be there. The cost on those is minimal.

It is a huge wall for new 50's to gear up with these type of drops.

Syn

[Tsunenori]

I agree with this as well. One of my biggest aspirations for 2.3 was in hoping that the new dungeons wouldn't repeat the same mistakes as 2.2 dungeons did. Maybe a 40% chance on an extra chest with a crafting mat spawning in *addition* to the regular chests with loot, but having crafting materials in lieu of gear is fairly disheartening at this point. It feels like padding. I can't imagine how irritated I would have been back near 2.0's release running AK over and over for the Hoplite Circlet if I had to deal with crafting materials getting in the way of an already crowded loot table.

[Garlyle]

...Actually I think I figured out something that bothers me more.

It's not that the crafting mats drop - it's that they are the same mats that dropped in 2.2.

Interestingly a lot of the lower-level dungeons have unique mats that drop that are used for crafting furniture. ...Why'd that stop?

[Recaldy]

...Actually I think I figured out something that bothers me more.

It's not that the crafting mats drop - it's that they are the same mats that dropped in 2.2.

Interestingly a lot of the lower-level dungeons have unique mats that drop that are used for crafting furniture. ...Why'd that stop?

Stone Vigil HM loot for furnishing got moved to a non-boss treasure chest.

[MeeDeggiThePunisher]

Come on guys, SE is just worried about your health. Adventuring is hard work, you're going to need that filtered water to stay hydrated. And to make soap from that animal fat to wash off all the beastman blood.

[KingOfAbyss]

Come on guys, SE is just worried about your health. Adventuring is hard work, you're going to need that filtered water to stay hydrated. And to make soap from that animal fat to wash off all the beastman blood.

And when you are too stressed out from all these dungeons and hunts remember - fishing has been inserted just for these problems!

[Bushido_Brown]

Going to support this thread. I agree that mats should not be boss drops (Minimum, Filtered Water, Cooking Sherry, really!?). There's other ways to get all of that stuff through our Grand Companies, and their now-diluted pricing on the Marketboards. Please scatter those items around the dungeons like those X-pots are, and have bosses drop gear only.