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    stanrir's Avatar
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    I'septha Tayuun
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    Faerie
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    Bard Lv 80

    glamors don't appear in frontlines?

    so just tried frontlines had a lot of fun, did have one issue though my glamors didn't show up thanks to some restriction? really so glamors are restricted in frontlines, May I ask the reasoning behind this decision?
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    Raide Duku
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    So people can take a rough guesstimate on how powerful you are by your appearance. Someone wearing the cascader's outfit is going to be a lot less effective then someone wearing full PvP armor. (bit of an extreme example, but you get the drift).

    Pretty much every MMO that has some sort of vanity system does this for PvP.
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    Oerba'dia Vanille
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    So people can take a rough guesstimate on how powerful you are by your appearance. Someone wearing the cascader's outfit is going to be a lot less effective then someone wearing full PvP armor. (bit of an extreme example, but you get the drift).

    Pretty much every MMO that has some sort of vanity system does this for PvP.
    That's only relevant for 4v4 arena. In frontlines, Morale stat does not have effect and your gear is synced to i80, hence PvP items are completely useless. Your class name is displayed on your head.
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    So people can take a rough guesstimate on how powerful you are by your appearance. Someone wearing the cascader's outfit is going to be a lot less effective then someone wearing full PvP armor. (bit of an extreme example, but you get the drift).

    Pretty much every MMO that has some sort of vanity system does this for PvP.

    ^^^^ A large % of being a good pvper is knowing the appearance of various tiers of gear to be able to gauge your opponents power at a glance.


    Quote Originally Posted by Meeep View Post
    All about that fancy little nameplate that says all you need to kno~

    Since you don't pvp... read above. Class has much less relevance than gear.

    -Decently geared dps walks up

    Fresh 50 whm

    Fresh 50 blm

    -you should kill the blm 1st. This healer will not have the power to stop you if your decently geared.

    -Decently geared dps walks up

    Fresh 50 whm

    mid geared BLM

    -you should kill the whm and ignore the blm. He will hurt but he will take too long to kill compared to wiping out the whm in a quick rush

    -Decently geared dps walks up

    decked out 50 whm

    decked out 50 blm

    -you should send 1 person after the blm to keep them occupied and send everyone else to blitz the whm.. His regens alone will be an issue.
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    Last edited by Zarzak; 07-10-2014 at 02:56 AM.

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    Player Amused's Avatar
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    Velvet Velour
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    It's synced down to 80 already. The possibility of encountering someone who would be an easy target because of their gear is incredibly low.

    On top of that, gear is not the only factor in PvP. The person with less gear could be a substantially better player that the one(s) that do have gear.

    Also, to claim that class has less relevance than gear is ridiculous. Class dictates your entire tool set whereas gear only dictates a fraction of your numbers. Class is by far the most important identifier as it dictates the match up you'll be involved in.
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    Last edited by Amused; 07-10-2014 at 03:02 AM.

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    U'khazii Odh
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Class has much less relevance than gear.
    wat

    Gear has nothing to do with it, we all have the same ilvl sync'd gear @~@.
    We jus want glamour so it doesnt loook horrid too.
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    Cara Crescent
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    Sargatanas
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Its pretty simple really, a big part of PvP is all about picking the right target and in the case of multiple similar targets such as say 2 white mages for example, you might want to take out the weakest/strongest healer first. For example, being able to view their gear is the easiest way to identify the targets potential strength such as the stronger healer wearing lvl 100 gear versus the other wearing level 70. With glamours, it would not be possible to identify factors such as this.

    As stated above, this is common in just about every MMO with competitive PvP.
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzy View Post
    For example, being able to view their gear is the easiest way to identify the targets potential strength such as the stronger healer wearing lvl 100 gear versus the other wearing level 70. With glamours, it would not be possible to identify factors such as this.
    If you really want to push it to ridiculous levels, realise that everyone could glamour cascadier or snowman outfits or something - and then you'd be left with "oh, great, which one's even which".

    It's kind of a shame because, yes, I really like my glamoured outfits - but I completely understand and agree with the need for clarity in PvP content.
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    Selawyn Kludra
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    Why did you have to suggest a snowman war? Because now I want to do a snowman war.
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    Hesseth Rahk
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    Except it's synced to i80, so in reality the i70 and i100. Person would only be 10 I levels apart. Yes it's still a difference, but much less significant of one.
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