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    Desynth Issue

    Hi all. I thought I'd might bring this issue up, as I'm sure it will become one sooner or later.

    I did some desynth grinding with some fish, and I got it up to over 70. Since I was running out of fish that gave me more than a 0.01 increase, I decided to see how desynth works for the other crafts. I got a couple desynths into weaver, and I noticed that I was actually losing culinarian desynth skill. I obviously hadn't reached the 300 point max, but I not sure why this would be happening so soon.

    A 0.01 loss might not seem like much, but it is a bit more of an issue at the higher levels. Why exactly am I losing skill points, when I am nowhere near the skill cap for total desynth? I haven't even reached 100 total points yet, and I'm losing skill points.

    Again, not the biggest issue (yet), but it's still annoying that someone thought to implement the system this way.

    Note: Sorry, I think this should have gone in a different forum.
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    Last edited by DarkDedede; 07-09-2014 at 12:37 PM.

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    If you read the patch notes, it warns you that leveling another desynth craft can and will lower your other ranked desyth crafts.
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    What the OP is trying to say is that his CUL skill is decreasing while being within the 300 limit.

    The patch notes are as below and nowhere does it suggest you will be losing skill while leveling other desynth crafts.

    Successfully desynthesizing an item will raise your skill level for that class. However, this may also lower the skill level of other classes in certain instances.
    * If the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will be lowered.

    Edit:
    @Dark are you playing on the ps3/4 as patch notes do say and could be worth a look into.

    * An issue has been discovered when desynthesizing on the PlayStation®3 version. Please refer to the Known Issues section for further details.
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    Playstation desynth issues are relevant for PS3 only and are about desynth function freezing when called from desynth menu, not about decreasing the level. However patch notes also mention that if your desynth fails it might decrease your level however it doesn't specifically say at which (e.g. if on the same or other) class.

    Dark: what your total of desynth levels - is it already over 100? Have you had any failed desynth on WVR?
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    The total wasn't over 100 when I made the post. I had CUL at about 74, and 10 in a couple others. I'm at about 150/300 right now.

    The loss was random for random craft skills, and it happened for success in the current craft. I ended up leveling weaver to 50, and probably lost an entire CUL level. Not fun, considering how many and what types of fish it takes to get a gain a higher level. Losing 0.01 stings a bit more, for a lvl 70 craft, than it does for a lvl 10 craft.
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    OK - looks like bug then I suggest posting this in the Bug report section using the requested bug report format with aas much details as possible so devs can trace / reproduce the bug. I've so far managed to level only CUL on one of my alts to 77.01 going through almost 3k fish I've kept from my FSH and post 55 - 60 it's pretty painfull with only 0.01 increases so I'd be pretty pissed to lose any of it.
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    I noticed my weaver skill started getting random drops of 0.001 when doing the same thing. For reference, my WVR desynth is at 15 and my CUL is at 40.
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    You mean 0.01? Also - have you had any failed desynths? If not this should be reported in bugs section.
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    I've noticed this as well, and CUL seems hated most by all Craft skills it would appear. The best advice I can provide when attempting to mastering 2-3 skills is to level all your available crafts to at least a skill of 5-10. By doing so, you spread the diminishing effect upon all your crafts randomly, and its impact isn't as cumulatively directed towards one's desired trade-skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoshikogi View Post
    I've noticed this as well, and CUL seems hated most by all Craft skills it would appear. The best advice I can provide when attempting to mastering 2-3 skills is to level all your available crafts to at least a skill of 5-10. By doing so, you spread the diminishing effect upon all your crafts randomly, and its impact isn't as cumulatively directed towards one's desired trade-skills.
    wow thats really smart. gonna have to do that. pretty easy to desynth to level 20 or 30 or so
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