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    Greetings,

    In regards to the specific point about losing Desynthesis skill, the system is indeed working as intended. When you are skilling up a specific craft another craft's skill may randomly lose Desynthesis skill points.

    Here is a direct quote from the patch notes: (I see that Maluber also posted this information, but lets make it official.)
    Successfully desynthesizing an item will raise your skill level for that class. However, this may also lower the skill level of other classes in certain instances.
    * If the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will be lowered.
    Good luck to everyone desynthesizing, I know I need it! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Greetings,

    In regards to the specific point about losing Desynthesis skill, the system is indeed working as intended. When you are skilling up a specific craft another craft's skill may randomly lose Desynthesis skill points.

    Here is a direct quote from the patch notes: (I see that Maluber also posted this information, but lets make it official.)


    Good luck to everyone desynthesizing, I know I need it! :P
    If it's working as intended, then the patch notes you quoted are incredibly misleading. We're not talking about exceeding the 300 point maximum. When I was at 90 points combined, I was occasionally losing 0.01 points of one skill when I raised another. Those patch notes say that the skill level of other classes will only go down in certain instances, and then it explains those instances by saying it will happen when you try to go above the 300 point limit.

    If it's intended that every skillup could result in a skilldown, the patch notes should have said:

    Successfully desynthesizing an item will raise your skill level for that class. However, this may also lower the skill level of other classes. In addition, if the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will always be lowered to bring the combined skill level to the 300 point maximum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    If it's working as intended, then the patch notes you quoted are incredibly misleading. [...] Those patch notes say that the skill level of other classes will only go down in certain instances, and then it explains those instances by saying it will happen when you try to go above the 300 point limit.
    Successfully desynthesizing an item will raise your skill level for that class. However, this may also lower the skill level of other classes in certain instances.
    * If the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will be lowered.

    The way it is written in no way implies that the instance listed encompasses all possible instances...
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-D-Omlette View Post
    The way it is written in no way implies that the instance listed encompasses all possible instances...
    True, but it only lists the one instance where we don't need an explanation.

    It would have been worded to say "However, this may randomly also lower the skill level of other classes, even if the 300 point maximum has not been reached"
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-D-Omlette View Post
    Successfully desynthesizing an item will raise your skill level for that class. However, this may also lower the skill level of other classes in certain instances.
    * If the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will be lowered.

    The way it is written in no way implies that the instance listed encompasses all possible instances...
    Thank you, I have dyspraxia, which comes with a reading disorder, and i completely understood it and was more confused as to why others didn't. Turns out my dyspraxia wasn't turned on at the moment :P. Besides the patch notes there are the tool tips that are un game, i believe they mention something like this.
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    ErnestoGiovanni, read what Yoshi had to say.. This is not working as intended. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...her-2.3-topics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    In regards to the specific point about losing Desynthesis skill, the system is indeed working as intended.
    Yeah, good luck with keeping it that way. I'm sure once more people start investing in high level desynth skills, they'll get much more vocal about losing progress. When 0.01 could potentially cost a rare item or even tens of thousands of gil, losing that 0.01 "randomly" is just not acceptable.

    Edit: Oh, and thanks for the reply, by the way. You did answer my question.
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    Last edited by DarkDedede; 07-12-2014 at 08:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Greetings,

    * If the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will be lowered.
    Completely inaccurate, implies that if you skill points are 300/300 it will decrease others, at the moment it decreases as long as you are de-synthesis on more than one class prior to the cap of 300. It is clearly is not working as intended.


    Just allow desynth for all classes with no reduction because the class/job system allows for people to change on the fly to play whatever they want, why start now with making people choose to narrow their choices. Isn't the main drawing point of this game is that anyone can delve into whatever they want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Successfully desynthesizing an item will raise your skill level for that class. However, this may also lower the skill level of other classes in certain instances.
    * If the skill level increase would bring your combined skill level over the 300 point maximum, the skill level of other classes will be lowered.
    As others have said, this is extremely misleading. "in certain instances" implies there are likely to be defined instances when it would lower. Such as the line following it stating the 300 point max.

    It isn't in "certain instances" it's "randomly".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    Greetings,

    In regards to the specific point about losing Desynthesis skill, the system is indeed working as intended. When you are skilling up a specific craft another craft's skill may randomly lose Desynthesis skill points.

    Here is a direct quote from the patch notes: (I see that Maluber also posted this information, but lets make it official.)


    Good luck to everyone desynthesizing, I know I need it! :P

    Yoshi seems to disagree, as per his interview here with 4Gamer. Specifically..
    ■ Since it's possible to accidently desynthesize with a class you don't want to level and end up lowering something else...

    That won't be happening until you're at the 300 point cap, so for now you can feel free to raise what you like.
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