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  1. #61
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Yeah, it is incredibly frustrating as well as demotivating. Being the kind of no-life-weekender I am, I decided to spam the Expert roulette. Ten times. In all my runs, 17 chests dropped crafting materials. Some were worth gil, most were Cooking Sherry, Minium, Filtered Water and that whetstone. The gear that dropped were not worth glamouring (accessories and belts).

    What's funny is that during 2.2, everyone I partied with ALWAYS Greeded on the ilvl70 gear they could Need on (even during the first week). Now? Because of how frequent the crafting materials drop, people are noticeably frustrated and are abandoning their etiquette to Need on the gear.
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    The point that so many people are missing. If you want crafting mats, there are other places besides the dungeons to get them. You can get them with seals or on the MB. When the dungeons drop crafting mats, they usually only drop one at a time anyway, and you can't do most crafts with just one so it's not actually saving crafters a lot of time/money to have a chest drop one potash for example. And seals aren't hard to come by, you can get them from leves and Fates. And by trading in armor, but if no armor drops then you can't. On the flipside, the armor that drops cannot be bought or traded or crafted, so whatever your reason for wanting it, the dungeon is your only option. Obviously even with no craft mats you'd still have to deal with rng, but at least your chances would be better.
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    Make everyone happy and just put the materials into the side chests rather than the main chests; it would equal out to about the same amount of materials per dungeon (or more) and make it so actual gear drops from the main chests.

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    Or have the bosses drop the materials rather than them coming from the chest, or have them be uncommon/rare drops from trash mobs.
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    Last edited by BossEpoch; 07-14-2014 at 12:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SummonerSenah View Post
    The point that so many people are missing. If you want crafting mats, there are other places besides the dungeons to get them. You can get them with seals or on the MB. When the dungeons drop crafting mats, they usually only drop one at a time anyway, and you can't do most crafts with just one so it's not actually saving crafters a lot of time/money to have a chest drop one potash for example. And seals aren't hard to come by, you can get them from leves and Fates. And by trading in armor....
    Yes it is saving gil/money. Having it drop from mobs something everyone does makes the amount on the MB go way up. Your right you can not do much with 1, still how many none crafting people sell theirs on the market board? driving the price down.

    it sucks and I kinda do not care seeing as the i70 stuff is worthless nowadays. They should make it a rare item used in the i90 syths now at least. I do agree that rate to gear/systh items suck >.<
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  5. #65
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    I have to say this's one of my biggest pet peeves. Especially as a DPS to sit in queue for a half hour only to get filtered water. Seems to me most people aren't even doing the dungeons, they're out doing hunts for their myth and soldiery and to get easy sands, so the queue times are horrible, even when I queue healing. They really need to fix this shit. ASAP.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    What's funny is that during 2.2, everyone I partied with ALWAYS Greeded on the ilvl70 gear they could Need on (even during the first week). Now? Because of how frequent the crafting materials drop, people are noticeably frustrated and are abandoning their etiquette to Need on the gear.
    Greed -> Get Sealds -> Buy mats.

    You are welcome.
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    Annoying Drops

    it is annoying. My last TT HM run it was almost all mats. I get it's to help the crafters, but honestly why give us seals to spend while we farm atma, animus, or what ever else to buy these things and slap these in our face on the loot rolls. I don't care if voidsent blood drops occasionally or what ever, but gear should appear more often than not. People go to these instances to get experience and to get gear. It seems at least the Darklight stuff dropped more often than not in the last 3 "expert roulette" but now it's all crafting stuff thats the exact same as the last. I also like what someone else said here about making the crafting materials in the extra chests along side the potions, exlixers, and ethers. This will help encourage full clears when crafters are in the party.
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  8. #68
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    I've ran about 40 or so of all of the new dungeons (all together) and received five pieces of equipment, everything else has been materials. I've yet to even see a Robe of Divine Death, which is what I'm hunting for. It's incredibly demoralizing and as a result I'm already losing interest in the new update after only a few days.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Ran enough Hullbreaker Isle until my i90 gears get 100% spiritbonded.

    Still yet to see Curaiss of the Divine War
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  10. #70
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcyon1 View Post
    Greed -> Get Sealds -> Buy mats.

    You are welcome.
    Okay? Not entirely sure why you're telling me something that is completely unrelated to the point I was making.

    Remove crafting mats from boss chests, people will Greed rather than Need (even for glamour purposes) because they know they'll have a chance at getting the gear another time, as well as give people who actually Need the gear for upgrading purposes a guarantee in getting the gear.

    Normally, I would Greed on gear I don't Need (even if I wanted it for Glamour). But because crafting materials seem to have an obnoxiously high drop rate compared to equipment, I Needed the second I saw the Robe of Divine Death drop (it was made for my characters colour. Red hair, red robe. Orange streaks in hair, orange scarf). I would have Greeded if Filtered Water, Minium or Cooking Sherry didn't drop ten times back to back from the final boss of Tam-Tara and Hullbreaker.
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    Last edited by Nestama; 07-14-2014 at 07:06 PM.

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