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    Yonko's Avatar
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    Yonko Chao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisbox View Post
    You guys realize the relic chain is going to go on, why would you not go novus? In the end it could be BiS for all we know.
    While I agree with your first part they have said that the best weapons in the game will always come from dungeons.

    That said I would take a WHM novus over the HA one since I don't need SS on my WHM and the 3 MND is more than made up for by the 31 DET. Even the 2 damage isn't that big of a deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonko View Post
    3 MND is more than made up for by the 31 DET. Even the 2 damage isn't that big of a deal.
    Bullshittus maximus. +2 Weapon DMG and 3 MND exceeds 31 det. Not speaking of crappling the LB output of your team by choosing lower weapon dmg, which solely relies on team combined weapon dmg. Weapon dmg >>> all
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    Kizuna Astin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonko View Post
    While I agree with your first part they have said that the best weapons in the game will always come from dungeons.

    That said I would take a WHM novus over the HA one since I don't need SS on my WHM and the 3 MND is more than made up for by the 31 DET. Even the 2 damage isn't that big of a deal.
    pretty sure 1 weapon damage = 4-6 mains stat and 1 main stat = 6 ish 2ndary stat (if some1 can confirm, been too long I forgot lol.) just 2 Weapon damage alone will out weight 31 DET (if my ratio is correct LOL)

    trading main stat for 2ndary stat is debate able (depend on class). trading weapon damage for 2ndary stat is really bad trade. (you will end up losing a quite a bit of healing, pretty sure heal amount work off Weapon damage as well)
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    Kaliga Moonshade
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    Thing is, I do have a static for coils and I still see myself getting Novus far sooner than I will see HA weapon. Another group in my FC began downing T9 weekly, but for the last several weeks has seen the same weapons drop making the effort a couple of them put into Novus worth while cause it is still better than the other 110 weapon option in the end.

    You can quantify effort:time ratios all you want, but in the end it is still a 2nd best choice simply because you can now tailor the weapon to be the 2nd best choice. Most other weapon options are i100 now instead of only 5 under the best choice. I'm almost done with my novus and quite simply...I'd much rather spent the time doing det/crit than settling with the Tome/Sand 110 Crit/SS as brd.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Novus is only slightly better then the Soldiery weapon which is easier to get and should be good up until you get high allagan. And i have doubts as high Allagan from what i gather has always been the best weapon.
    I have already spent 3 months trying to get a atma weapon for my blm and just cannot take fates anymore.
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    Kaliga Moonshade
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    You will have someone who will argue the numbers because it is still "Best in slot" which is true. That is their mentality on it, and nothing you argue changes the fact that it is still....best in slot. For DPS, the dmg difference does make a fairly big difference as it is the primary modifier on the end number. Do I agree with SE's decision? No, I don't..because it is a side step to keep content "playable" and "balanced." It didn't make much of a difference for XI when they brought in new endgame weapons to make prior ones obsolete or better in different situations because one was still better in damage output in ideal situations. This is still the mentality they have held to but applied it in a rational way based on how the game is built. Novus is not a bad weapon, and even if "slightly" better than the one other i110 weapon, it is still 2nd best option that tailors to a different player base.
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    Ginga Kun
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    E Glow factor on Novus cost us millions of gil + rng infusion.

    Pls give alternative ways in getting Materia iV...

    Btw How to earn Materia IV?
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    Tomba Labomba
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    ^^ guaranteed if you bind a Item level 70 item. Possible if you bind a Level 45+ item, but low chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomTom1968 View Post
    ^^ guaranteed if you bind a Item level 70 item. Possible if you bind a Level 45+ item, but low chance.
    Oh nice, didn't know that. Should be fun!
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    Yshelle Dawnholder
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    Still working on my novus, however, the IV materia is becoming a setback since a lot of my SB returns only elemental IV materia if I get a IV at all. Transmutation is still an RNG joke and at almost 1 Million Gil for a determination IV, not going to happen any time soon. I will get my upgraded book of spades sooner than my Novus weapon.

    Yes, I could put Acc on my Novus just to get it done. But, I do not trust SE to make the redo an easy task to just replace one stat. Sometimes I feel that this is FFXIV: A Materia Reborn.

    And by the way, why the hell is elemental materia even still in the game? They are useless unless there is some greater plan for the future. I suppose so that the MB is not flooded with materia which would lower the price. Economy trumps all, even in games.
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    Last edited by Kaaylryn; 07-20-2014 at 02:18 AM.
    I have no prayer for that...

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