Worthless effort

[TomTom1968]

Novus is the 2nd best weapon in the Game and as an extra, it is customizable. It was never supposed to be the best one, otherwise people would not want to beat the last turn of the actual Coil. And it's good like that because Novus only needs time and Patience. A lot, I agree lol but there is nothing more to it. I assume it will always be this way. If we get the 3rd incarnation of Coil and the Weapon is Item Level 125, the highest Level of the Relict weapon will be 120 and so on and on.

[givemeraptors]

Novus is the 2nd best weapon in the Game and as an extra, it is customizable. It was never supposed to be the best one, otherwise people would not want to beat the last turn of the actual Coil.

Ehhh, I don't know. How many more people opted for Levi or soldiery weapon instead of farming ATMA? A lot, judging by SE's choice to push the Novus questline back. Frankly at this point I think people would do coil anyway, because you still get superior gear. I don't think the situation is similar anymore to the original Coil/Relic weapon scenario.

[Zaero]

Another day, another "WAATMA" thread.

[Nicobo]

Basically sums up Novus weapons. Even with the optimal setup of materia, they still won't be better than a High allagan weapon, and they require WAY more time and effort to get. Why would anyone ever bother with it?

bcoz you need it for the next upgrade... ^^;

[wicked-one]

Basically sums up Novus weapons. Even with the optimal setup of materia, they still won't be better than a High allagan weapon, and they require WAY more time and effort to get. Why would anyone ever bother with it?

Because it´s a optional long term goal.

I love those threads, as if downing T9 1-8 times to get YOUR high allagan is no effort at all...

[Kuwagami]

Basically sums up Novus weapons. Even with the optimal setup of materia, they still won't be better than a High allagan weapon, and they require WAY more time and effort to get. Why would anyone ever bother with it?

And with 2.4 patch, HA will be worthless vs the next step of Relic (let's call it SSA relic, gotta keep it becoming more glowy) and if you can't beat the last turn you'll rant about people having better weapons than yours despite not "putting the effort".


How about finally learning how a vertical progression MMO works and learn that the useless "next best weapon that grows with time" is far more valuable as an investment than the last raid weapon ?
Sure you'll get raid weapon faster usually if you're very good, but if you aren't part of the top, the relic is the way to go 100% of the time. Wether you complete it before getting the raid weapon or not is irrelevant to the point here..

[Alistaire]

And with 2.4 patch

Exactly, the only content available right now with any chance of staying power in the long run is novus.

[The_Last_Dragoon]

The developers said that they hope to eventually have the relic weapons become what they are actually referring to from FF XI, so if I'm to have any sort of guess, they're probably going to end out as the strongest weapons available for those classes in the game due to the tireless amount of hours you have to put in to getting them to that level.

[Horobi]

Keep in mind the situation between XI and XIV is different tho, relics were the best of the best for over 6-7 years. In XIV, everything is reset every 6 months roughtly, so we'll always have to put in some effort to keep it upgraded.

Regardless, they'll be some serious vanity gears in a few years when 98% of the players give up on them.
How many threads here have we seen with "there's nothing to do" or "coil down, now what?" ? Those guys clearly didn't build a relic or two.

Ugh, I've got a clunky english today, like my driving. I'm afraid to go back to work now ><;

[AscendantManes]

The developers said that they hope to eventually have the relic weapons become what they are actually referring to from FF XI,

become what they are actually referring to from FF XI,

FF XI,

Oh.

From job progression to "When did I start playing FFXI". You know, FFXIV has more grind than a Korean MMO.