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    Frontlines and PvP gear

    No, this is not some protest or petition against the morale stats. As far as I am concerned, the morale stat being removed is a good thing and I say that with a full i100 set.

    What my problem is, the PvP quite clearly states:

    "Materia effects active during PvP only."



    So, with that said, I am sure you can only take a guess with where I am going with this. The materia does not work in Frontlines.

    You might think to yourself why I might use it though, well I made quite some good melds on this gear and was expecting to use it based on that for Frontlines as it would still be quite a bit better than any other gear I would find available.

    I am really hoping that this was not meant to be the case and that materia effects should be active in Frontlines. Especially considering Frontlines is listed under the PvP profile.

    I would really appreciate if a member of the dev. team could get back to me on what the decision is here with materia in PvP.
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    The item level sync system has been added.
    When undertaking a duty utilizing item level sync, the item level of any gear exceeding the maximum item level will be adjusted accordingly. Unlike character level sync, however, gear parameters will not be subject to further reduction beyond that brought about by the item level decrease.

    In order to ensure participants are evenly matched, materia bonuses, as well as the Morale parameter, will be ignored while item level sync is in effect.
    * Restrictions will not apply to the use of player actions or traits.

    As of patch 2.3, item level sync will be applied to the following PvP instances:

    The Wolves' Den (Matched, IL 80) / The Wolves' Den (Light Party, IL 80) / The Carteneau Flats: Borderland Ruins (IL 80)
    I am at work and have been unable to play the new Frontlines so I don't know if there is an IL restricted Frontlines and a regular Frontlines but the patch notes say no.
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    Synner Strife
    How do you prove you exist? Maybe we don't exist... -Vivi

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    "thanks for beta testing our crappy PVP, enjoy your gear that is worse than CT gear for PVPing"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mupod View Post
    "thanks for beta testing our crappy PVP, enjoy your gear that is worse than CT gear for PVPing"
    pretty much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synner View Post
    I am at work and have been unable to play the new Frontlines so I don't know if there is an IL restricted Frontlines and a regular Frontlines but the patch notes say no.
    Drats, I missed that part!

    Such a shame, takes out the personalisation of gear which is dumb and makes crafted gear pointless.
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    Where does it say that morale isn't included in Frontlines?
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    I wouldn't mind if they let materia into FL. Honestly though, I don't even notice gear or anything. Map movements and coordination are what win you FL matches. You'll feel good in your heart that your efforts aren't wasted, but the material would really bring a trivial difference. As for morale, glad it's gone. You don't have to give an arm and a leg to kill someone. if they had let morale into this game mode.....omfg I'd still be playing my first match. Morale did a LITTLE bit for damage but mainly it was for defense. This would allow people to live for too long...and allow for reinforcements to arrive. The FL is about skirmishes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubez187 View Post
    I wouldn't mind if they let materia into FL. Honestly though, I don't even notice gear or anything. Map movements and coordination are what win you FL matches. You'll feel good in your heart that your efforts aren't wasted, but the material would really bring a trivial difference. As for morale, glad it's gone. You don't have to give an arm and a leg to kill someone. if they had let morale into this game mode.....omfg I'd still be playing my first match. Morale did a LITTLE bit for damage but mainly it was for defense. This would allow people to live for too long...and allow for reinforcements to arrive. The FL is about skirmishes.
    Some materia can make a huge difference, there can be times where DPS between a 1v1 is tight or even taking on two players and having the extra DPS could win it. Even more so, the materia made for PvP such as stun and sleep resistance would be extremely useful considering PLDs tend to come in and stun spam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubez187 View Post
    I wouldn't mind if they let materia into FL. Honestly though, I don't even notice gear or anything. Map movements and coordination are what win you FL matches. You'll feel good in your heart that your efforts aren't wasted, but the material would really bring a trivial difference. As for morale, glad it's gone. You don't have to give an arm and a leg to kill someone. if they had let morale into this game mode.....omfg I'd still be playing my first match. Morale did a LITTLE bit for damage but mainly it was for defense. This would allow people to live for too long...and allow for reinforcements to arrive. The FL is about skirmishes.
    This is all wrong.
    Materia makes a huge difference on gear.
    added 16 DET and 9 Crit (as shown in the image)?
    thats like an iLevel raise.
    Your statements on Morale are wrong too but I stop here because the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logo View Post
    This is all wrong.
    Materia makes a huge difference on gear.
    added 16 DET and 9 Crit (as shown in the image)?
    thats like an iLevel raise.
    Your statements on Morale are wrong too but I stop here because the internet.
    And that's only the head piece XD in total I have 68DET melded to the gear set, 41CRIT, and 35ACC so I am a little bit annoyed that I lose all that. Mainly because unlike the PvP gear itself, materia isn't as near as difficult to get. Sure it's costly but you can spiritbond up to 12 pieces of gear at the same time (13 if you do a shield). Sure it completely evens the playing ground and stops the rich from over powering those who don't have it. But gil isn't hard to come by in this game and spiritbinding has only gotten easier if getting gil is an issue so any sort of customisation is being taken out. Again, I can understand why as SE already screwed up PvP once, so all these restrictions should stop most of the bitching which came with the morale stat.
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