Dye-able AF Disappointment.

[Tupsi]

That's really dissapointing, why must everything have to be so complicated with this game? It's things like this that makes me wonder why they even bother. I was hoping to go back and put my summoner AF dyed in white but it's not worth it if it's going to cost me a leg and arm just to dye the gear.

This is the least complicated MMO to exist...lol. People wanted crafting more involved, here you go. Make up your minds: Either crafting remains COMPLETELY useless in the long run, or they give it a purpose, which is it?

[RedAntares]

This is the least complicated MMO to exist...lol. People wanted crafting more involved, here you go. Make up your minds: Either crafting remains COMPLETELY useless in the long run, or they give it a purpose, which is it?

I'm sorry but in what MMO being able to dye a piece of armor cost this much time and investment?

Sure, it's just one set of armor but If they wanted to make it difficult because of the lore they shouldn't have implemented the system in the first place imo and I'm sure there are other ways to make crafting fun and useful without making things a mindless grind.

[DeadRiser]

I'm sorry but in what MMO being able to dye a piece of armor cost this much time and investment?

Sure, it's just one set of armor but If they wanted to make it difficult because of the lore they shouldn't have implemented the system in the first place imo and I'm sure there are other ways to make crafting fun and useful without making thing a mindless grind.

But that's just it. This isn't just "any in game armor". This is traditional artifact gear being augmented so it can be dyed. It's not gonna be handed out. If you don't like it, don't do it. It's not required that you vanity dyeable af gear.

And like I said before. It keeps crafting relevant. Simple as that. I don't have a master craft but finding someone who does is easy as pie. I was upset at first too but when I realized how easy myth is to get now and whatnot, it's no biggie. Just a little effort.

[RedAntares]

But that's just it. This isn't just "any in game armor". This is traditional artifact gear being augmented so it can be dyed. It's not gonna be handed out. If you don't like it, don't do it. It's not required that you vanity dyeable af gear.

And like I said before. It keeps crafting relevant. Simple as that. I don't have a master craft but finding someone who does is easy as pie. I was upset at first too but when I realized how easy myth is to get now and whatnot, it's no biggie. Just a little effort.

Grinds are a part of every MMO and I understand that but I'm not saying it should be handed out, I'm just saying there should be a middle ground for something so simple as to dye a piece of armor and I will not do it like you said, not because I'm angry or anything but because I simply lost interest even if myth is easier to get now.

[DeadRiser]

Grinds are a part of every MMO and I understand that but I'm not saying it should be handed out, I'm just saying there should be a middle ground for something so simple as to dye a piece of armor and I will not do it like you said, not because I'm angry or anything but because I simply lost interest even if myth is easier to get now.

But it is traditional artifact gear like I said, they just aren't going to make it simple, that's why it is the way it is. It's not just another piece of craftable armor or a dungeon drop. This is the traditional armor handed down to you. What do you want? A quest to bring two simple items and that's it? If you simply lost interest, why? Because it's a lot of myth? What else are you gonna spend myth on anyways?

[Seoulstar]

But it is traditional artifact gear like I said, they just aren't going to make it simple, that's why it is the way it is. It's not just another piece of craftable armor or a dungeon drop. This is the traditional armor handed down to you. What do you want? A quest to bring two simple items and that's it? If you simply lost interest, why? Because it's a lot of myth? What else are you gonna spend myth on anyways?

I fail to understand..why are you defending this..when it's just simply dying armor..it's not like we're getting the best gear in the game. It's. Just. Simply. Dying. Armor. Not everything in this game has to be a huge grind. Especially if it's something purely for cosmetic reasons that does not affect anything in the game at all.

[Buff_Archer]

I fail to understand..why are you defending this..when it's just simply dying armor..it's not like we're getting the best gear in the game. It's. Just. Simply. Dying. Armor. Not everything in this game has to be a huge grind. Especially if it's something purely for cosmetic reasons that does not affect anything in the game at all.

Exactly. And you know, when dyable Darklight was released I actually had fun with that. I had just leveled Dragoon to 50 and they were in a mix of half DL/Myth gear for a few days, and figuring out what dye made the DL match the rest and look the coolest was fun (Void Blue I think). I also figured out a somewhat scandalous way to dye the DL healer pants that I glamoured into my Myth SCH gear and which are prob responsible for the last 10 or so names being on my friends list. Locking casual fun behind a grind that's even more arduous than that used for some forms of progression means it will never be used in creative and spontaneous ways.

SE- I'd strongly recommend utilizing Focus Groups representing a cross section of invested players in developing new content. Not all content can or should be designed to appeal to all people, but for too many thing all it takes is a quick read of the patch notes for players to be able to point out consistent feedback as to what makes something go from having potential to be fun, to being a turn-off. With the whole Frontlines queueing issue that had to be patched tonight- I hate to say I told you so, but the feedback on the message boards speaks for itself in saying this could have been addressed in the design phase rather than as a correction following a frustrating release.

[DeadRiser]

I fail to understand..why are you defending this..when it's just simply dying armor..it's not like we're getting the best gear in the game. It's. Just. Simply. Dying. Armor. Not everything in this game has to be a huge grind. Especially if it's something purely for cosmetic reasons that does not affect anything in the game at all.

Um I don't know, because it's not really a grind? I was able to get in two days of doing hunts, my daily, and like 3 crystal tower runs. I seem to be one of the few that sees it as a fluff item that when you run out of stuff to spend myth on, this is something else. People are just upset they can't get it immediately. But whatever, I love my robe. If you really wanted it, you'd save up the myth for it, which won't take long for a couple pieces.

[Amused]

But it is traditional artifact gear like I said, they just aren't going to make it simple, that's why it is the way it is. It's not just another piece of craftable armor or a dungeon drop. This is the traditional armor handed down to you. What do you want? A quest to bring two simple items and that's it? If you simply lost interest, why? Because it's a lot of myth? What else are you gonna spend myth on anyways?

But that's just it. This isn't just "any in game armor".

Maybe you'd have a point if it weren't for the fact that AF armor in ARR is handed out practically for free through your job quests. Maybe if it was like FFXI, or FFXIV 1.X you'd have a point, but it isn't, and you don't. I'm sorry.

[Felis]

Maybe you'd have a point if it weren't for the fact that AF armor in ARR is handed out practically for free through your job quests. Maybe if it was like FFXI, or FFXIV 1.X you'd have a point, but it isn't, and you don't. I'm sorry.

The way you got the AF during 1.x an you get them during ARR is the same. You do the lv 45 and lv 50 job quest.

AF is symbolized gear. You don't simple change symbols for free, even if you get them for free.