Things that need to change for the better

[Kumaeru]

LOLthisthread. The Dubont's popularity has skyrocketed on Figaro because of this.

So yes, the changes implemented were big. And it was a good thing. Frankly I'm loving the game with more content now and we've seen people constantly online now doing more things on the server. What also makes a good player is the ability to adapt to sudden changes, either gameplay and most definitely game mechanics.

We've been asking YoshiP for months to stop the hand holding and give us content that we'll have to seriously think about. Dungeons are not that hard, just think outside the box. Take a look at placement and reevaluate skills and abilities.... level up more jobs to get more skills! I'm just now getting done my 9th R50 job and #10, 11, 12 coming up close behind. This is also a very similar scenario for the rest of my linkshell. This planning also goes into why we now love the new repair system. I carry mats for arrows for my group that I can make on the spot, and full stacks of Grade 4 and 5 dark matter. Only thing I cant repair is Weaver and Leather which several others can repair.

The enmity issues and hate issues are easily fixable with abilities. If you don't have those abilities then start leveling those jobs up. Before the release of FFXIV it was stated that people will level multiple jobs to get more abilities to make things easier. This is of course an MMO and like all MMO's the sure way to get people to play the longest is to make your player base grind on end for some kind of progress/goal which in this case are those abilities.


Have you actually seen the effects of STR and DEX? If you think they actually do nothing then you need to actually test a bit more. Just because someone tested that HP and MP increases stop at 174 stat points doesn't mean everything else does nothing. I've seen sure differences in STR and DEX and PIE. Its the reason I run dungeons with full STR rings now on Archer.


In my opinion FFXIV needed these kinds of changes to force people to learn and not just cure bomb with no side effect... Who really used chameleon before 1.18 anyways? Enmity management was nonexistent before this patch...


The dungeons are not hard... you and you're linkshell just need to re-evaluate apparently everything.



--Kuma
Dynasty Linkshell
Figaro

[nibelunc]

You guys need to understand, that the devs will make their own work and not what you expect. Some of the players are happy with the changes, because the game is now much more playable. Each class is a lot more challenging to play. Like the game or stop playing, but please stop to spam the forums with your nonsense whining. Nothing changed about the DoM classes but you have to handle with MP now, what the heck is wrong with that?! They cant create a perfect games for all users and what you do will only bring them out of their concept.

[Dubont]

You guys need to understand, that the devs will make their own work and not what you expect. Some of the players are happy with the changes, because the game is now much more playable. Each class is a lot more challenging to play. Like the game or stop playing, but please stop to spam the forums with your nonsense whining. Nothing changed about the DoM classes but you have to handle with MP now, what the heck is wrong with that?! They cant create a perfect games for all users and what you do will only bring them out of their concept.

just letting you know...the "nonsense whining" is what got Yoshi-P in the job position that he is now. Our "nonsense whining" is what gave us content. Our "nonsense whining" is what is going to bring this game from a 4.0 to a decent 7.5-8.0 Without "whiners" this game would still be in terrible shape.

[DGMart]

I've noticed from clearing the r50 raids 10+ times is that the emnity algorithm Is a bit off. For example the enmity on the ogre boss is completely different than Batraal using the same abilities/spells. Doing cure I on the ogre after that tank provokes and taunts should not make a healers hate meter go from nothing to yellow period... Cure II yes, cure I absolutely not and cure III obviously red. I can do a SacIII or a CureIII on Batraal right at the start and it will only be green which should also be adjusted.

It's not balanced, however it's easily possible to kill the bosses. You just need to adapt to the changes. I'll give you a hint on what will help on the Ogre if no one else already said this. If your whole party has contagion.. The THM ability.. Have them all equip it. It will transfer all the enfeebling effects from the ghosts onto the boss weakening him.

So you got enfeebling from contagion. You should also have a true enfeebler/dot caster. That's double enfeebles right there. Also THMs absorb spells/initiation transfers those spells to the tank giving him even more def,eva,acc,atk etc. That's less heals for your healers. May I also suggest you use roaming soul sacIII on your tank right before the portal spawns the boss. That should help a bit I would think.

As for if you were to wipe and run back. I would suggest having the tank run down the right ramp with sacIII on him as well as any type of magic def and physical def buff. He should have his cureIII button ready. As for the rest of your party, they should run down the left ramp with all their buffs. Have one of your casters chainspell stoneskin back to back while the other focus on heals. If you need to use Curaga, I would suggest using soughspeak beforehand. Then just get back into your positions. There's many ways you can do this and trust me it's completely possible but it's best to take competent players.

If you're having a mp management issue. Cast what you need to then go passive, it's not hard. Rinse repeat.

Hope that helps you. Good luck!

[Bre]

just letting you know...the "nonsense whining" is what got Yoshi-P in the job position that he is now. Our "nonsense whining" is what gave us content. Our "nonsense whining" is what is going to bring this game from a 4.0 to a decent 7.5-8.0 Without "whiners" this game would still be in terrible shape.

Do you honestly think without the "nonsense whining" these updates wouldn't have happened? You think they would have left the game without content forever?

[TheVedis]

Do you honestly think without the "nonsense whining" these updates wouldn't have happened? You think they would have left the game without content forever?

i wonder if some people have ever read what yoshi claims the game shoulda had at launch
i don think any ammount of whining dictated that opinion he had, its just what he believed we shoulda had, and what hes working on giving us

[Wynn]

i wonder if some people have ever read what yoshi claims the game shoulda had at launch
i don think any ammount of whining dictated that opinion he had, its just what he believed we shoulda had, and what hes working on giving us

The player survey was a strong indicator they already knew in what direction they were taking things. Their questions were very specific and gave the impression that they had already decided on a course but they wanted to know what possibilities within that general scope that the players would like to see.

I'm sure the initial complaints and reviews were a strong push to change the game but, when it comes to the actual specific changes we are now seeing, I agree with Vedis. Yoshi-P already knew exactly where he wanted this game to go.

[Cursive]

shut this stupid thread down already

why? it is highly entertaining to read.

[Cursive]

Rofl 10 rebirth in 1 hour is possible if you were smart enough...

i'm pretty sure he hasn't been reading responses...

[Thanos]

why? it is highly entertaining to read.

haha yea i still read this so i can laugh while at work at Dubont making a ass of himself