Things that need to change for the better

[SuzakuCMX]

funny that you say that considering how, until this patch, I was never a healer at all. I would toss out a cure once or twice if the THM was down on mana, but any other time, I was a full time blm con. You want to talk about easy mode to a player that played FFXI for 7 years and solo/duod blm all the way to 75? yeah ok, bro. I'm not happy that CON is the new whm especially since I am a terrible healer. ZOMG! HE SAID HE IS BAD! Yes, I admitted that I'm a terrible healer and the only game that I've ever mained healer in was PWI, but the point still remains that the mana costs for the cures in this "casual friendly" game are still much higher than any other game and they need to be lowered. Also, sir, I would like for you to actually comment on my other points instead of trying to belittle me to make yourself feel better about your life.

So you have no idea what you're doing when you're trying to heal and then complain about MP costs?

[Deceptistar]

The update was awesome, but it had some severe bad sides and a few other things that need tweaking.

1) Cure MP costs. They are much too high and before anyone says "But 11's were high!" yeah, but a cure 3 wasn't 135MP

2) Raises need to be on separate timers. What's the point of having 4 different types of raises, as a CON, if we can only use 2?

3) Stats need enhancing. Aside from VIT and MND, they do next to nothing.

4) Gear damage from death needs to be abolished or reduced. Every dungeon run, I come out with at least 3 pieces of broken gear. This is unacceptable considering people want close to 10k to repair something...

5) the r45 dungeon needs a slight nerf. "CRY MOAR!" no seriously, the ogre opens up with AoE spam and the mages are usually dead in the first 30 seconds of the fight which leads to #6. Also, fix it so that if you wipe and have to return, that the mobs don't pop until you're team is inside the room. It is VERY hard to recover from a wipe on that fight as you will probably wipe again before your team is back into the fight (Stupid ghosts..)

6) Enmity needs to be fixed. The current system is severely flawed. A GLA used 3 vokes and a couple of WS on a mob, I cure 3'd once...mob turned around and bam, 1 shot.

1) He has a point...

2) FFXI allowed raise 1-3 on diff. timers. They werent 3min CDs if i remember correctly

3) Wonder if pple actually notice this?

4) TBH i think the current system may be costing the same, if not more, for the R50s than was before the 1.18 patch

5) This id have to disagree. This boss was a good wake up call for the pple who wanted challenging content. ALOT of us had gotten soft and inattentive due to the ease of things (from NMs to leve lvling). Alot where like 'Hey we hardcore, bring it on SE cause we waiting, hurry the hell up.' and BAM, SE hit us with something everyone has to have their eyes glued to the screen+etc to complete for once. Its hard but no where near impossible. It reminded me alot of those promathia missions and the sense of accomplishments. Right now some of us cant even clear this without demand for some kinda absurd arcarcarcarcconconconglaglaglagla setup, and it made me realize, how much we slacked since the release.

6) no comment. havent spammed heal 3's that much cause knowing SE, it would get the same reactions as mobs in the dunes+cure III >_>; i hear cure2s generate pretty good aggro so i guess its true.

[Santrale]

When I choose to do something I will put 100% into it.. or else why bother? I chose to play this game and I will endure the changes that SE makes. I will learn the new system and adapt to it and learn a better way to play with it.

No one is forcing you to do anything. You dont want to craft then dont craft.. the end result is you having to always look for repairs and continue to complain. I guess you will never be happy.

I dont get why ppl like you seem to always find things to complain about.. why are u still playing?

Why? Cause I do like MMORPGs it's nice to play with other gamers cause I WANT to not NEED to. The difference meaning I want their company and like the person, as opposed to needing them weather I give a care about them or not. 100% into anything you do, eh? I hope it doesn't including getting a job, doing school or actually being worth while what so ever in the real world... cause if SE continues to make casual play less beneficial you're not doing that. I guess it's people like you that say "Screw having a life, I have this MMORPG." Well honey when the servers go down, and you've spent ten or so years giving 100% of your all because no game will go forever.. what will you have to show for it? Old stories of the game adventures that really no one other than people who played it are gonna care about? I like MMORPGs, but no I don't think it's a life style you should put 100% of your efforts into, it's for fun not a job? Do you get paid for this? Does it put food on your table? Maybe if you sold gil in it to feed yourself I could have maybe a bit more respect. It'd explain why you're happy with reduced gil rewards for leves and such. I mean gil sellers can't sell a product when there is no demand cause it's easy to get, right? Oh... maybe you should pursue this career, your slogan can be "Show you care! Buy Gil so a 30 year old virgin can eat!" Yeah I know that was immature of me but hey, how mature is saying you put 100% of your efforts into something that's supposed to be fun, not work.

[polyhedral]

That's the attitude that brings in the crowd eh? Fancying any new members into your elite game with that mindset?
Good luck.

[Raze]

If you're so stuck on ARC being OP and "the best DD," go level ARC and stop complaining. Seems you will argue with every piece of advice given. So yea, like others have said, have some cheese with your whine.

To those open to advice and suggestions, and willing to "break out of the mold" best of luck to you all. Don't be fooled into thinking the most obvious strategies are the "best" as some would have you believe. They're obviously just jealous of those who don't play follow the leader.

^this

Meowy and his group of ragtag misfits didn't like the idea of their jobs being deemed less useful so they actually went out and did something about it. If you love ARC so much, do something about it and join the ARC50 legion.

[Santrale]

awwwww pookie! i feel so bad for you! you actually have to mage now! poor you!

What fun was it to spam aoe cures all day long? its boring.. this is much more challenging no? its fun? go play something else if u want something in perma easy mode

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I bet thanos is one of those people who have no idea the world outside of their front door exists. Or just feels so poorly about the person they are outside of the game, it makes them feel better to be elite in at least a digital world! It's okay Thanos you'll always be loved so long as the servers don't go down and you're able to manipulate others to get ahead in this digital world.

[Dubont]

So you have no idea what you're doing when you're trying to heal and then complain about MP costs?

and here you go trying to belittle me. No, I know what I'm doing from a hate and mp management standpoint seeing as how (if you actually read my post instead of just trying to find a reason to yell at me more) I solod/duod blm in XI...what I didn't mention was that I was elvaan and I did perfectly fine. I still played healers, but I never mained them (meaning I never took one past like..65) So yes, I know what I'm doing as far as MP is concerned, I'm just not good at knowing thresholds and the limits of my cures.


So far, most people seem to agree with almost everything aside from #5. After testing it out a bit more, I did realize that the fight is actually pretty decent once you get past the initial aggro (the reason we would wipe was due to a party member's error, which we have now corrected). Now we just need the right setup as 1 con, 1 thm, 2 arc, 2 mrd, 1lnc and 1 pug just isn't quite cutting it so I retract the statement about the dungeon needing a nerf. I WILL NOT, however, retract my statement about the mobs depoping so that the party can reenter. I still strongly believe that this needs to at least be looked at.

[Santrale]

funny that you say that considering how, until this patch, I was never a healer at all. I would toss out a cure once or twice if the THM was down on mana, but any other time, I was a full time blm con. You want to talk about easy mode to a player that played FFXI for 7 years and solo/duod blm all the way to 75? yeah ok, bro. I'm not happy that CON is the new whm especially since I am a terrible healer. ZOMG! HE SAID HE IS BAD! Yes, I admitted that I'm a terrible healer and the only game that I've ever mained healer in was PWI, but the point still remains that the mana costs for the cures in this "casual friendly" game are still much higher than any other game and they need to be lowered. Also, sir, I would like for you to actually comment on my other points instead of trying to belittle me to make yourself feel better about your life.

Considering con has nuke spells and not just cures, it is a shame to see them made into a cookie cutter class. Being a healer can be fun if you like that.. and wanna deal with people ready to verbally lynch you if you make one mis-step and they die. I was a whm 75 in XI, I only ever went so for very close friends cause I hated the masses that just wanted to suck up cause healers were so obscure. You're right Dubont you shouldn't have to be restricted from using other abilities in a class. I mean it'd be nice if people could tweak their characters to choose more. When you make classes that are more flexible you don't find these static party set ups because there's only ONE true tank class and so on. I mean people screamed for more strategy, and it seems they still didn't get it like they thought. Strategy that requires one method and set up for doing something isn't a strategy, it's making it easier to post a solution on a wiki to a battle. I much prefer strategy where I can think of many possibilities, such as a con being able to lay into a boss with it's elemental magic and have it be effective and not always be a designated healer.

[Arcell]

I bet thanos is one of those people who have no idea the world outside of their front door exists. Or just feels so poorly about the person they are outside of the game, it makes them feel better to be elite in at least a digital world! It's okay Thanos you'll always be loved so long as the servers don't go down and you're able to manipulate others to get ahead in this digital world.

And yet you're no better. Here you are belittling others on a video game forum for being good at a game and putting time into it. You act like anyone who tries to be good at any game is some 40 yr old shut-in, failure in society. I put my all into the game when I can play. I have a job, college and friends I hang out with in the real world. Fact still stands that once I log in I give it 100% as well.

[Thanos]

Why? Cause I do like MMORPGs it's nice to play with other gamers cause I WANT to not NEED to. The difference meaning I want their company and like the person, as opposed to needing them weather I give a care about them or not. 100% into anything you do, eh? I hope it doesn't including getting a job, doing school or actually being worth while what so ever in the real world... cause if SE continues to make casual play less beneficial you're not doing that. I guess it's people like you that say "Screw having a life, I have this MMORPG." Well honey when the servers go down, and you've spent ten or so years giving 100% of your all because no game will go forever.. what will you have to show for it? Old stories of the game adventures that really no one other than people who played it are gonna care about? I like MMORPGs, but no I don't think it's a life style you should put 100% of your efforts into, it's for fun not a job? Do you get paid for this? Does it put food on your table? Maybe if you sold gil in it to feed yourself I could have maybe a bit more respect. It'd explain why you're happy with reduced gil rewards for leves and such. I mean gil sellers can't sell a product when there is no demand cause it's easy to get, right? Oh... maybe you should pursue this career, your slogan can be "Show you care! Buy Gil so a 30 year old virgin can eat!" Yeah I know that was immature of me but hey, how mature is saying you put 100% of your efforts into something that's supposed to be fun, not work.

hold on... giving 100% means i sit here playing all day? sorry thats not the case

I will put 100% effort into learning the game mechanics, into doing everything the game has to offer. If it takes me a week or a year to get something i will play the game for what it is instead of sitting here crying like you are.

oh newflash everything in this world requires effort.. even fun things.. oh yea i forgot... ur lazy