Things that need to change for the better

[Dubont]

The dungeons were supposed to be content for the hardcore players. There is no problem with having content that is hard to do. There were parties that beat the ogre within 24 hours of release. It is a problem with you, and not with the dungeon.

@Shai: You, ignored. You provide no discussion and instead choose to ignore people based on a biased opinion and the fact you don't like what they're saying because you can't logically come up with a counter argument. You just ignored my question of why you would need more than one raise and instead told me to shut up because I'm not a high level.

It most certainly is NOT me. A mob that spams AoE from the start and is surrounded by what..8 more, unkillable, mobs that ALSO spam AoEs from the start and the chance of re-entry to the battle from a wipe is very low...yeah...that's a problem with the dungeon, but again, you wouldn't know about it. Yes, the dungeon should be hard, but it shouldn't be in the state that it is. Reduce the amount of AoE spam and it would be fine, but the dude comes out of the gate with AoEs and doesn't let up at all.

[SuzakuCMX]

It most certainly is NOT me. A mob that spams AoE from the start and is surrounded by what..8 more, unkillable, mobs that ALSO spam AoEs from the start and the chance of re-entry to the battle from a wipe is very low...yeah...that's a problem with the dungeon, but again, you wouldn't know about it. Yes, the dungeon should be hard, but it shouldn't be in the state that it is. Reduce the amount of AoE spam and it would be fine, but the dude comes out of the gate with AoEs and doesn't let up at all.

Think of new strategies, tell your tank to practice tanking. The dungeon has been out for less than 3 days and already at least 6 parties have beaten the dungeon. I'm saying this for the last time now, this is a problem with you and your group and not the game.

[Dubont]

Think of new strategies, tell your tank to practice tanking. The dungeon has been out for less than 3 days and already at least 6 parties have beaten the dungeon. I'm saying this for the last time now, this is a problem with you and your group and not the game.

The ENM system is currently broken so no amount of tanking will help with the fact that a single cure means a focused CON. Also, with the way that the mini-boss is "balanced," if the CON is focused, the CON gets 1 shotted. Those 6 parties most likely just got lucky because this is probably the most BS fight that I've ever seen in ANY game...and keep in mind, I solod Demon's Souls on NG++...

[SuzakuCMX]

The ENM system is currently broken so no amount of tanking will help with the fact that a single cure means a focused CON. Also, with the way that the mini-boss is "balanced," if the CON is focused, the CON gets 1 shotted. Those 6 parties most likely just got lucky because this is probably the most BS fight that I've ever seen in ANY game...and keep in mind, I solod Demon's Souls on NG++...

You don't even have a R50 tank, how do you know it's broken.

"QQ my tank can't hold enmity well enough. Enmity must be broken, even though plenty of other people do fine with it, I can't figure it out, therefore, it is broken!"

Seriously.

Well this is my last post in this thread.

[Shai]

Well this is my last post in this thread.

Huzzah! This is good news.

You clearly don't understand what you're talking about.
I guess me and Dubont (who typically disagree) can just commiserate quietly now.
(Since I can't read Mr Insulty-pants).

[Dubont]

You don't even have a R50 tank, how do you know it's broken.

"QQ my tank can't hold enmity well enough. Enmity must be broken, even though plenty of other people do fine with it, I can't figure it out, therefore, it is broken!"

Seriously.

Well this is my last post in this thread.

you really can't read can you? 3 vokes, 2 ws and I was able to take hate with a single cure...if that isn't broken, then idk what is. l2read please.