'Personal" Chambers? Yeah right!!

[Cyrus-Wallace]

Such a great leader. Get a better FC without jerks or ask for permission.

[Souljacker]

Such a great leader. Get a better FC without jerks or ask for permission.

It's got nothing to do with being a "jerk". SE has ALWAYS had this serious disconnect with what it takes to actually lead a successful guild - and this goes all the way back to linkshells in XI where you couldn't hand them over to a new leader (because SE was afraid the new leader wouldn't lead the same way as the old one - nevermind the fact that players could always LEAVE the linkshell if they didn't want to follow the new leader) and the person had to actually be online in order to kick them. If they were a sackholder, forget it if they wanted to troll you. They will just log on whenever they know the leader isn't on, kick the pearls, and log back off laughing. MAybe you could get a GM to intervene, but they were mostly just lazy and didn't care even if you DID get one. So leaders would just make everyone sacks, which meant there was NO officer control AT ALL except when the leader herself was online.

That kind of same thing is happening here. SE is "protecting" members from their leadership and tying leadership's hands when dealing with problematic members. I don't want a newcomer to join our FC, buy housing, and then turn around be an unkickable troll to the rest of the members who have been here since the start. And SE says this is the way it should be? Leaders should have no control over how their guilds are run? And anyone who wants to keep control over how the guild is run is a terrible leader? Nevermind that the leaders often put the MOST work, gil, and time into the running of the FC. I know that the leadership in my FC has.

Until SE does this right I don't blame any FC leadership whatsoever for requesting their members don't purchase housing. This is 100% on SE and too much administrative headache for leadership.

[Fizzie]

The annoying thing is that they KNOW the way the rooms work now are problematic, but they decided to give us an unfinished "product" instead (seem they didn't learn from the mistake they made last time).

Can FC's not limit room buying to certain ranks?

To be honest, if my FC told me I couldn't have a room, I'd have left them. It's a bit too dodgy as they're obviously not sure if they want to keep you in the FC.

[SendohJin]

Can FC's not limit room buying to certain ranks?

you can block a rank from entering the FC house, which will make it impossible for them to buy a room.

[Tiggy]

T but they decided to give us an unfinished "product" instead

Having a rough edge that needs smoothed out does not suddenly invalidate the entire system. It's a product not a "product." It just needs a bit more love.

[AnsleeUruko]

As the Boss of OP's FC, I can assure all of you that it is NOT because we want to kick him out. I have said time and time again since last night that we are buying a LARGE HOUSE, an upgrade from our medium one. I locked EVERYONE out so that nobody wastes 300k gil if they miss a macro spam during the day, or fail to read our Greeting when they log in.
It's not everyday you log in the forums looking for something else and find a post about yourself. O.o

[Zelth]

As the Boss of OP's FC, I can assure all of you that it is NOT because we want to kick him out. I have said time and time again since last night that we are buying a LARGE HOUSE, an upgrade from our medium one. I locked EVERYONE out so that nobody wastes 300k gil if they miss a macro spam during the day, or fail to read our Greeting when they log in.
It's not everyday you log in the forums looking for something else and find a post about yourself. O.o

Yeah, I kinda jumped the gun and assumed the worst instantly. Our FC IS planning to buy a bigger house, and members would likely lose money from the change if they buy a room before that happens. BUT my argument still stands, if it were tied to an inn room or implemented better, things like this wouldn't be a problem. SE still has a major problem they need to fix.

[Seif]

As the Boss of OP's FC, I can assure all of you that it is NOT because we want to kick him out. I have said time and time again since last night that we are buying a LARGE HOUSE, an upgrade from our medium one. I locked EVERYONE out so that nobody wastes 300k gil if they miss a macro spam during the day, or fail to read our Greeting when they log in.
It's not everyday you log in the forums looking for something else and find a post about yourself. O.o

People need to stop hating on the leader of this FC. Leaving a note like that is actually for the protection of gil of it's members not to troll them.

[SolArisa]

People need to stop hating on the leader of this FC. Leaving a note like that is actually for the protection of gil of it's members not to troll them.

Sure, but it's not the question of the OP if the FC leader is right or wrong. And the OP also did not ask to be lectured about the FC leader's motives. Well, in fact, the OP only wanted to rant, no advice of any kind was requested.

So the only really useful advice for this person: If you don't like this place, then pack your stuff and go to another estate whose inhabitants comply to your expectations.