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    Player
    DragonFlyy's Avatar
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    It's linked to the FC because it was designed that way from the start with the knowledge that later (soon?) we would also be getting personal housing.
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    Delmontyb's Avatar
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Personal housing is said to be in 2.38, so you'll be able to have your own garden, and whatnot. If you were on my FC you'd be welcome to have your own personal chamber.
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    Nadrojj's Avatar
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    Nadrojj Rolyatt
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Best thread of the day day. Second comment sums it up.
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    Alaina Claire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Rogue Lv 71
    Buy it anyway. What are they going to do, kick you? Oh wait lol
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    Player Kayo's Avatar
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    Kayo Vedo
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 50
    lol, this is just stupid, im with OP. Why in bloody balls is this tied to the FC housing? /shrug ... maybe I got a little spoiled with the Wildstar housing.
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    DragonFlyy's Avatar
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kayo View Post
    lol, this is just stupid, im with OP. Why in bloody balls is this tied to the FC housing? /shrug ... maybe I got a little spoiled with the Wildstar housing.
    Except this isn't housing. Housing comes later (2.38 I believe some already said). This is Personal Chamber in an FC.
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    Baneus Prime
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    Except this isn't housing. Housing comes later (2.38 I believe some already said). This is Personal Chamber in an FC.
    Indeed. The huge number of people that fail in their understanding of this is amusing. It's an awesome example of "I don't really know what's going on , but I'm gonna comment on it anyway" syndrome.
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    Having an opinion does not make you right or wrong, it simply means you have an opinion. Don't get irritated when people don't agree.

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    Gunspec's Avatar
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    SE just doesn't seem to think about how systems like this can be abused. Kind of like how when "ready check" was first added, you could spam ready check during combat, causing that window to harass all 24 players in CT. No one knew who was initiating it, and you couldn't attack until you minimized the window.

    There will be drama. Imagine a small FC of about 12 raiders, where one guy is on hostile terms with 4 or 5 members, but stays because he is personal friends with one or two officers. People roll on gear, have arguments, get a little fight in them, say some mean things. The majority of the FC members talk privately with the leader about getting rid of the guy, and they come to the agreement that he needs to leave. Oh, but wait, he doesn't WANT to leave. And now he has a private room, so they can't kick him. Then you've got a stand off where one guy with a private room tells the other 11 members of the FC to leave.

    So now you call SE with an harassment report, right? But you never would have reported this guy originally. You wouldn't have brought it to SE's attention, because the FC can handle it's own drama with the right tools. Now how long will it be before SE responds? What will their "official" policy be? Do they return loot stolen by company chest ninjas? Not that I recall. So how are they going to handle this situation?

    Now after a patch or two, FC leaders can kick anyone. But maybe the FC leader gets upset, and kicks a bunch of players he disagrees with. Maybe it's a 200+ member FC, and the owner decides to remove inactive players. How many players will log in, suddenly down 300k with no private room, and file harassment reports against the leader? They would normally have just found a new FC, but since they lost something, they grab SE's attention. What will SE's response be? To punish the FC leader? Or to punish the individual players for "abusing" the report system?
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    Last edited by Gunspec; 07-09-2014 at 06:17 AM.

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    TheRogueX's Avatar
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    Character
    Arias Lightbearer
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Honestly, it's pretty simple: The Private Room should just go with you. If you leave a FC or get kicked from one, your room is still there, just inaccessible until you join a new FC with a company house. Perhaps you have to pay like a 30k 'relocation' fee or something (because SE seems to be bound and determined to make everything cost money), but otherwise the room is just how you left it.

    SE's lead developers and designers seem absolutely determined to make things as pointlessly complicated and difficult as they possibly can. Look at Glamour, as a perfect example: Pointlessly complicated and difficult, with very little overall functionality (If I want to have multiple functional outfits, I have to have multiple sets of the same gear glamoured to different things? OH WAIT, you mean the best gear in the game is unique and I can only have one set?).
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  10. 07-09-2014 11:40 AM
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    Might as well not stir the hornet's' nest.

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