Naul, Elite Mark

[Burrmanchu]

The difference being Odin and Behemoth spawn once every few days...these apparently spawn every half hour or so...it will die down :/

The other difference being most of us don't care about Odin and the like any more. These mobs drop marks to get some of the most demanded items in the game (sands of time much?). Also the Elite Bill adds marks to what you already get irrc. It won't die down any time soon. People are filling linkshells in less than a day just for hunting. SE really needs to at least treat this like FATEs where it'll gain HP based on how many fought it last.

[Felis]

The other difference being most of us don't care about Odin and the like any more. These mobs drop marks to get some of the most demanded items in the game (sands of time much?). Also the Elite Bill adds marks to what you already get irrc. It won't die down any time soon. People are filling linkshells in less than a day just for hunting. SE really needs to at least treat this like FATEs where it'll gain HP based on how many fought it last.

People would complain if SE change the little non-FATE open world contents we have in FATEs

[Zero_World]

Naul is practically impossible to kill with people being greedy and pulling early, it's low HP and terrible spawn time. I've never come across Safat in the highlands either, the conditions you meet don't make him spawn.

[PenutButter]

Holy crap, they only have 2k HP? I already knew this was gonna be horrible without some sort of claim system but didn't think it would be this bad. Seriously, just make it forced pop and claimed to the party that poped it if they didn't want to set up a claim system. Freaking horrible feature I swear.


Edit:

Nevermind, I just found out that there are apparently MUCH harder marks than Naul. However, since Naul keeps dropping seal and Sand/Oil books even if you already hunted him for the week, everyone rather camp him all FREAKING week instead of going for the harder marks.

This means it is sort of like a claim system, the first few people to spot it will kill it before anyone else get to it. Actually, after thinking about it like that, I like this system. People who work harder will be rewarded for it and people have to keep track of its spawn timer now.

[Vahlnir]

Sat around for hours for Naul yesterday for it to spawn and be killed before half of us could even get there... =.= The elite marks should have more HP and take a bit longer to be killed.

That was pretty much my luck until 2am last night. Came across Naul just outside of Behemoth's Dominion, with a few people already standing there waiting. One person said they weren't going to advertise...I had been trying since the patch to find this thing only to miss him by a matter of seconds/minutes each time, so I went along with it. More people showed, someone pulled, and he was dead in about 10 seconds. Thankfully I got full credit. Seeing this first hand I can see why people won't wait for others to cross the zone for a kill. He just dies way too fast to risk not getting credit, as do other rares around every zone.

[kiotsukete]

Svara needs to pop.

I think there may be some truth to this. I saw 2 spawns of Naul today and they both happened right around the time the Svara FATE popped. Unsure exactly if Naul spawned before, during, or after Svara, but it was about the same time in both instances. Also, if you talk to the Hunter Scholar NPC, his clue mentions both Naul and Svara.
IF it does turn out that the Svara FATE is in fact a spawn condition for Naul, then the only way to speed up Naul spawns is to get Svara FATE to pop, which means clearing other FATES to get them to cycle faster...oh boy...

Incidentally, I was too late to the first Naul spawn to get credit but was lucky enough to be nearby for the second Naul spawn so I was one of the first ones there. Couple people (strangers) there with me were nice enough to invite me to their party, shout the <pos> and hold their attack for others to show up. But once about a dozen people gathered, one person apparently got nervous and pulled = Naul was down in literally 15-20 seconds.

Some latecomers started berating us in /shout for not waiting longer, but what people don't get is that it gets harder to earn kill credit the more people that are there. Think of mob HP as a pie. You need to take off a set % off that pie to get kill credit. The more people, the less mob HP pie there is to go around. So waiting for latecomers doesn't help anybody, because more players wailing on a mob = less contribution % for everybody = lower chance for each player to earn enough to get kill credit.

Basically, if I hadn't been at the second Naul spawn right from the start, there's no way I would have gotten kill credit. I know because I experienced not getting kill credit when I showed up late to the first Naul spawn and only got a few hits in.

Elite hunts need to change, either by increasing spawn frequency, increasing mob HP, only awarding seals to those who have the elite mark bill, and/or greater variety of mobs so everybody and their mom isn't hunting the same mob.


TL;DR
Don't hate the players, hate the game. Occupy Coerthas. The mockingjay lives.

[Kiara1]

Killed him twice, in an 8 man group, only got 1 seal and didn't count for my weekly reward.
Yeah somethings wrong there!

[Sadana]

5 from my FC (plus birds) killed the Middle La Noscea rank A mark Vogaal Ja yesterday. No problem to kill him; kind of like the easiest peisteskin map with the basilisk. We each got 20 allied seals and lots of tomes. This is one thing that makes me happy I play opposite server prime time...

Has anyone found/killed any rank S marks? The info from the Hunter Scholars really seems like clues to making them show up. With Croque-Mitaine, the rank S goobue from Middle LN, there's all this about him liking worms and gardens and something about a river meeting the fields (I'd guess the Agelyss River outside Summerford). I don't know if the "clues" actually do anything (which would be cool) or if they're just decorative. :/

[Gerolan]

@sadana on,y seen and killed two S rank, one was a giant tree in sylph lands! killed so many people! reward was 50 seals and 200 myth, not sure for sold as I was capped but said I couldn't obtain.
Also killed a huge demon in camp overlook by the coeurl area,same rewards, same amount of deaths, honestly they seemed stronger than Odin and behemoth

[Taruranto]

If it work like every other open-world enemy, the non-claimer need to do at least ~ 30% of the damage to get credits

It works like FATE, spamming cures and flash is an easy way to get points.

Of course people prefer to burn it down...