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    1500 myth for new i90 accessories?!

    I know they said these had the potential to be "extremely powerful", but this is surely too much. 2 Raziqsands for the 2 gold ingots amd 1 emery doesn't seem appropriate for what it is. That's more myth than it would take to make any of the i90 chest or leg pieces and there are like 5 times the stats on those.

    Needs an adjustment IMO.
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    If it's meldable, it'll be worth it.
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    It is meldable, there was no doubt about that. But so is the belt and that has the same stat caps, and comes with extra stats, and extra defence, and costs 650 myth. It's all out of sync.
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    It would be kind of nice if they balanced new recipes such that the rare/ expensive materials came form gathering rather than those being super cheap and easy to get while the myth items (which come primarily from playing combat classes) are the primary financial roadblock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayonnegg View Post
    It is meldable, there was no doubt about that. But so is the belt and that has the same stat caps, and comes with extra stats, and extra defence, and costs 650 myth. It's all out of sync.
    Why was there no doubt about that? SE has shown in i90 pvp gear the idea to exclude accessories from having materia slots; till server's up or dats mined it's anything but sure.

    Edit: I guess the fact they cost 1500 myth is a good sign at least; nobody's touching those in the slightest if they aren't, at that cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Why was there no doubt about that? SE has shown in i90 pvp gear the idea to exclude accessories from having materia slots; till server's up or dats mined it's anything but sure.

    Edit: I guess the fact they cost 1500 myth is a good sign at least; nobody's touching those in the slightest if they aren't, at that cost.
    The reason they didn't put i90 crafted accessories in at 2.2 was that they would outclass a lot of alternative options when melded. They're giving us them now because it won't screw with the gear balance so much. Crafted 90 gear without melds would be pretty pointless at this point.
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    I understand the concept of melded accessories; you just can't say it was a sure thing because it turned out to be slot-less in other i90 content.

    They wouldn't be pointless exactly; they'd be for people to quickly gear up to i90 since t1-5 farming for accessories will dwindle even further.
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    Well, melding is the reason they described them as potentially "extremely powerful" during the E3 live letter, so it kinda was a sure thing. But eh, straying from the point here.
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    Honestly, I could justify 1000 tomes, but 1500 is way too much. They are not even trying to conceal the fact they don't want crafters get too much influence in endgame.

    I wish SE would get out of the mentality of making crafting a side activity focused on glamour and housing. Just because most MMOs don't take crafting too seriously, it doesn't mean we have to do the same. We are our own class, and spending a lot of time just to make gear that will most likely be replaced by most raiders sooner rather than later isn't very encouraging.

    Then again, trying to voice a dissenting opinion in these forums usually gets you a warning or a ban. Unfortunately there's not much room for constructive criticism, especially if it's not good for PR. Which is a shame, really, since there's so much potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutz View Post
    It would be kind of nice if they balanced new recipes such that the rare/ expensive materials came form gathering rather than those being super cheap and easy to get while the myth items (which come primarily from playing combat classes) are the primary financial roadblock.
    I agree.

    The new recipes are another slap in the face of crafters.
    Do more dungeon farming or buy the expensive materials while gatherers undercut eachother into oblivion because nobody needs the materials they get.


    I mean, just look at this recipe:

    The Greater Key of Tremors
    Demimateria of Crags x3
    Battlecraft Demimateria III x10
    Crag Heart
    Terminus Putty x10
    Enchanted Gold Ink

    So you have to farm enough Tian weapons or even accessories, to be able to desynth them into 3 Demimateria or buy them, if they can be sold.
    Then you have to farm some more to get a Crag Heart.
    Next you need 10 Terminus Putty (hey cool that 1 synth gives 3, so you end up with 2 too much) which require 12 Tawny Latex or 1800 myth.
    Ok Enchanted Ink is easy to get, yay!
    All that's left is getting 10 Battlecraft Demimateria III for which you will have to desynth high level DoW/DoM gear (I guess). I don't have any clue how high the chance to get Demimateria is, but if it's 20%, which is a high chance, it would mean you have to desynth 50 items...
    Then pray for HQ.

    All that to get an ilvl95 weapon?
    Yes you can meld materia in it, but you can't increase the main stats and materia is so cheap atm, just "shut up and take my money".
    In the time to get all the stuff together I could run Levi EX often enough to get almost every weapon and upgrade some of them to ilvl100.

    SE really loves crafters and gatherers.
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    Last edited by Kyana; 07-08-2014 at 09:16 PM.

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