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  1. #41
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    Mini - I think this is a great idea. Ignore the negativity.
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  2. 07-08-2014 04:57 PM

  3. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gevvy View Post
    You join a server thats native language is Japanese, despite not speaking the language.
    Its a geographical designation not a language designation.

    Unless "North American" is a new distinct language now

    PS Good luck with learning japanese Mini
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    Last edited by DubstepNinja; 07-08-2014 at 05:16 PM.

  4. 07-08-2014 05:15 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gevvy View Post
    Do everyone a favour and join an English speaking server, because you're probably annoying more Japs than youu'e helping.
    And you should do the Japanese a favour by not calling them Japs. It's an offensive term.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap
    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...on/english/Jap

    And you seem to be mistaken. Most English speaking players play in JP servers not because they are totally in love with Japanese people. They play it because of ping. And now the OP is trying to narrow the gap in communication by learning some Japanese.

    Yes there is an English speaking community on JP servers but why in the world should they remain strangers to the other major part of the community? Why not learn the same language?

    I get 80ms on the JP server and 350ms for the NA server. It's obvious which I would prefer, to play more competitively.
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    Last edited by Pantz; 07-08-2014 at 05:23 PM.

  6. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gevvy View Post
    Do everyone a favour and join an English speaking server, because you're probably annoying more Japs than youu'e helping.
    There is no way for me to play on english speaking server. Ping is not good (Above 350-380++), in JP server I could play more comfortably.
    By doing so, I do everyone a favour in better response on dodging AOE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heh View Post

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  8. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gevvy View Post
    JP servers are suited best for JP players.
    They're also best suited for any player who has a better ping to the JP regional servers than to the NA regional servers. It's not a distinction of language. It's a distinction of location.
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  9. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolArisa View Post
    I didn't mean to say it's identical and can be understood right away. It's absolutely right that the Japanese use of it evolved during the centuries. I wanted to point it that it's an easier way to learn them, especially since traditional mandarin is the root of the Japanese language. At least it was a lot easier for me, after I first failed at Kanji.
    The downside is that you have to learn traditional because that's what most Japanese use。 For example, chicken in Japanese is 鶏 vs simplified Chinese 鸡。 I think learning Chinese first would be good if you were going to go hard into it, then eventually transfer over to Japanese but otherwise if you have no interest in learning it at all, it's probably better just to slowly work on kanji from the bottom up.
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  10. 07-08-2014 06:02 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbinder View Post
    It's a distinction of location.
    It's not. Only for people who are not networkers or others who daily work on protocol level. Ping in gaming is one of the biggest urban legends. Completely different protocol, completely different layer, it's packages are always priorized over "actual package payload" ... and pinging a game server is not even suitable for treating it as a best case scenario, since it's often routed over different paths. pinging a server only serves one purpose: to see if the host is alive. In gaming context, it's a feelgood myth for technically inexperienced people, and, of course, a marketing gimmick to sell "better ping times" by raising the ICMP priority in a router slighty, thus decreasing the tcp throughput in the worst case.
    tcpping would be correct, though. But nobody uses it while measuring. Something like udpping for typical streamed game content does not exist, since udp is one-way only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Met my hubby on XI. Even though we were from different parts of the world, I flew to meet him and haven't left his side since. Now we're here in XIV :3

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    They need to remove J E D F tags

    Believe it or not, I can understand Japanese and can write it

    But they kick because I have E tag despite I able to play, know mechanic, understand JP and able to chat with them
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  13. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    They need to remove J E D F tags
    By the way ... maybe I do something wrong, but aren't those tags a typical example of XIV development coming to a full stop at 80%? Whatever I do, after each new login they are reset to my client language only, but not to the languages I actually speak and set in the game itself. I nother words: Remove them, since they are useless anyway.

    But well, since the settings are so non-intuitive, maybe I just have not found a secret hidden checkmark somewhere. So an info would be appreciated ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    Met my hubby on XI. Even though we were from different parts of the world, I flew to meet him and haven't left his side since. Now we're here in XIV :3

  14. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    They need to remove J E D F tags

    Believe it or not, I can understand Japanese and can write it

    But they kick because I have E tag despite I able to play, know mechanic, understand JP and able to chat with them
    There's many times I've been in DF, I see the tank doesn't know what he's doing. I see his tag as [J]. So I attempt to facilitate communications. No response. I try in English. Still no response. It's so irritating when they can't understand either of the languages you try to use. Which means, the people who kick you don't even try before they kick. That's what we call, "jerks".
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