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  1. #31
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    SongJoohee's Avatar
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    Au Ra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeriya View Post
    I COMPLETELY disagree. I worked my butt off to lvl up BLM as it is my main, I have an animus and ilvl 96 so far. And what happened when coil T6+ was released? Suddenly no one wanted BLM as much in their groups. Why is that? Because unlike ALL of the other dps classes, we're the most immobile class. So I WELCOME this Single Target buff.
    Black Mage is not immobile, we just sucked. We have enough abilities to negate most mechanics that force us to move. The simple fact of the matter is BLM single target was just bad, even when in perfect turret-dps scenarios.
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  2. #32
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    We simply needed a bit more single target dps to make it a more worthwhile addition to a serious raid group, I expect we'll still be less in demand than SMN, but hopefully there wont be as much stigma about BLM coil2 dps.
    Hi my blushing twin

    Anyways, you are right. In fact I think playing BLM is like playing a MNK. Good MNKs/BLMs are hard to come by. I've seen BLMs dealing 388DPS on T8 (yeah okay, they have double flare when DN appears but it is still a largely single target fight and they have their own duties) so when played properly they aren't that bad. SMNs and BRDs are indeed more popular but that at the same time makes more amount of bad SMNs/BRDs that deals shitty dmg because they played that job just because it is more popular.
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  3. #33
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    Aika Kayoi
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    Archer Lv 70
    the DPS power rankings aren't going to change at all

    BLM will still be around BRD while SMN/DRG/MNK are far better than the former two
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  4. #34
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    TomTom1968's Avatar
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    Tomba Labomba
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    BLM around BRD who sings his songs? If BLM and BRD are same, BLM is doing not the best job. I have yet to see a BRD who does around the same DMG I do as BLM. Not that I do exceptional damage or something lol. But Bard's singing costs more DPS than me moving around only able to use Scythe.
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  5. #35
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    Aika Kayoi
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomTom1968 View Post
    BLM around BRD who sings his songs? If BLM and BRD are same, BLM is doing not the best job. I have yet to see a BRD who does around the same DMG I do as BLM. Not that I do exceptional damage or something lol. But Bard's singing costs more DPS than me moving around only able to use Scythe.
    The truth about bard is that you really shouldn't have to sing outside of T8, and that's only paeon if your healers are good
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  6. #36
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    Alcyon1's Avatar
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by aabe View Post
    The truth about bard is that you really shouldn't have to sing outside of T8, and that's only paeon if your healers are good
    And if a BRD doesn't use FOE when he doesn't need to sing, then kick him and get a decent one ? FOE = more DPS for the BLM.
    And let's be serious 5 seconds, even when I need to sing, I don't even sing for more than half of the fight (mana issues), the DPS loss is marginal.
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  7. #37
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    Uninstall's Avatar
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    Yukairi Ran
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcyon1 View Post
    And if a BRD doesn't use FOE when he doesn't need to sing, then kick him and get a decent one ? FOE = more DPS for the BLM.
    And let's be serious 5 seconds, even when I need to sing, I don't even sing for more than half of the fight (mana issues), the DPS loss is marginal.
    Foe also != less DPS for the Bard, so he probably meant Bards don't really sing songs that lower their DPS since that's the subject we're on right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Hi my blushing twin
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  9. #39
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uninstall View Post
    Foe also != less DPS for the Bard, so he probably meant Bards don't really sing songs that lower their DPS since that's the subject we're on right now.
    And ? Did I say the opposite ? I just said that a BRD that doesn't use FOE (in serious fights, I won't bother to use FOE when the DPs isn't an issue) needs to be kicked. And when he uses FOE, instead of having less DPS, the BLM gets more, the difference is minimal.
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  10. #40
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcyon1 View Post
    And ? Did I say the opposite ? I just said that a BRD that doesn't use FOE (in serious fights, I won't bother to use FOE when the DPs isn't an issue) needs to be kicked. And when he uses FOE, instead of having less DPS, the BLM gets more, the difference is minimal.
    You should be kicked for not singing Foe's in any fight that you don't need Ballad or Paeon. You're not making the absolute most of your class if you're not doing everything possible.
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