So uh... what makes elite hunts different from a FATE then?

[DoctorPepper]

Personally I'm hoping that the one major difference is in the difficulty, I don't want to see FATEs 2.0 either myself so I'm hoping that the elite marks are very challenging fights and that the difficulty can scale with something like the number or people in the zone or something along those lines.

For me, my personal grudge against FATEs has everything to do with the lack of difficulty to do them. Due to the lack of difficulty I find them extremely boring and repetitive, but I would love to see some open world bosses with challenging mechanics that prevent them from just being zerged to death. I would even love to see a boss or 2 that are so hard we can't beat them without an extreme level of coordination between multiple FCs.

[ruinedmirage]

Personally I'm hoping that the one major difference is in the difficulty, I don't want to see FATEs 2.0 either myself so I'm hoping that the elite marks are very challenging fights and that the difficulty can scale with something like the number or people in the zone or something along those lines.

For me, my personal grudge against FATEs has everything to do with the lack of difficulty to do them. Due to the lack of difficulty I find them extremely boring and repetitive, but I would love to see some open world bosses with challenging mechanics that prevent them from just being zerged to death. I would even love to see a boss or 2 that are so hard we can't beat them without an extreme level of coordination between multiple FCs.

Aren't Odin and Behemoth supposed to be elder primals or something. And people are expecting simple monsters to require MORE skill than defeating a Primal?! Uh....... no problem here, I guess...? Now you have to ask yourself if FFXIV prides itself more on the lore (see SMN thread) or its players and keeping them happy. Honestly, I don't know. Anything more than a zergfest seems kind of farfetched.

[DoctorPepper]

Aren't Odin and Behemoth supposed to be elder primals or something. And people are expecting simple monsters to require MORE skill than defeating a Primal?! Uh....... no problem here, I guess...? Now you have to ask yourself if FFXIV prides itself more on the lore (see SMN thread) or its players and keeping them happy. Honestly, I don't know. Anything more than a zergfest seems kind of farfetched.

According to Yoshi-P the elite marks are meant to be monsters that pose a great threat to the realm, not some simple monster. I'm not sure if you're trying to say they shouldn't be more powerful than Odin/Behemoth or if you're simply saying it probably won't happen (which I agree with). Considering how easy Odin and Behemoth are however I will be very disappointed if they are not more difficult.

Personally I'm still hoping that some day we get an Odin Extreme or something but it doesn't really fit into lore now that it's been used in the FATE. Regardless however, if your argument is that they shouldn't be harder because Odin/Behemoth are easy then I would have to disagree and say that Odin/Behemoth should be harder as well. Right now both of those FATEs are an absolute joke and always have been.