Another patch - no change to the Atma drop system

[The_Juggler]

I had really hoped that there would be a change in the Atma drop system with the 2.3 patch - I don't want to see it made super easy, but something that rewards the player for persistence and participation.

But they've released the new patch notes, and not a single mention of Atma. Despite significant user requests for some kind of change, despite accusations that it's lazy and mindless grinding, despite many claiming that they want to quit the game over it.

There's lots of new content, and it looks really exciting!
But there is one quest line, the Relic Weapon, that is still prohibitively difficult and needlessly unfair.


I am really growing to hate this game as time goes on

[Avarghaladion]

If it wasn't for my FC I'd have unsubbed over Atma. Worst game design I've ever seen. Took my gf over 120hrs (of active, aggressive farming) to complete a set of Atma with several FC members having the exact same experience. I'm currently on a 50+ hr (of active farming) streak without an Atma dropping.

As it stands I cancelled my alt/mule subs in addition to my main's automatic renewal and I downgraded myself from enthusiastically shelling out the 180day subscription to cautiously getting 30 days at a time, hoping they turn this crap around... I was similarly disappointed to see the patch notes...

[Zankes]

If atma is so depressing why don't you guys just get alternative weapons? with this patch they made it super easy to get i95 weapons and some ways to get i100 weapon and even i110 with tome from ct and sands from hunts.

[Logo]

If atma is so depressing why don't you guys just get alternative weapons? with this patch they made it super easy to get i95 weapons and some ways to get i100 weapon and even i110 with tome from ct and sands from hunts.

So much this.

[Chrisbox]

If you cancel your sub over atma.....idk what to say. Must be some sad lazy souls.

[HumsterMKX]

If you cancel your sub over atma.....idk what to say. Must be some sad lazy souls.

You serious that the said person is lazy or that is a bigotry comment?

[ZhycranaDranix]

There was a buff to the atma drop , no credible sources but it was rumored to be from 1-5 to maybe 10% now to be honest and no lying I patched 2.3 this morning ran two different fates and got one right of the back (Fish) to be exact with no luck for the past week maybe it was luck , but with more and more content coming out I think they would increase the DR due to players falling behind people are still climbing and not to mention the grind for animous and I don't even know what to do for novus so yes I solely believe in a increased drop rate due to my exp. this morning

[Avarghaladion]

If atma is so depressing why don't you guys just get alternative weapons? with this patch they made it super easy to get i95 weapons and some ways to get i100 weapon and even i110 with tome from ct and sands from hunts.

That's completely facile. It isn't about the weapon itself or a lack of alternatives. The relic quest line isn't even really required except for the flavour and the ongoing progression. The issue is that the content is insipid and patronizing. It's the kind of content a company releases that says they view their customers as mouth-breathing dollar signs.

If you cancel your sub over atma.....idk what to say. Must be some sad lazy souls.

Our subs are the most relevant form of feedback the company can get. When SE does well, I'm happy to reward them and to tell others about how fun the content is. When they do poorly I'm certainly not going to keep rewarding them. There's a reason a relevant number of people quit the game over this "content." Some people love to make arguments like "ohhh just skip that content," "there are alternatives," and "you're just lazy." Well...no.. I'm 50 in all clases, maxed stats in all DoH/DoL, damn near full at least AF2+Zenith in all DoW/DoM, and made my FC's large plot, house, and furnishing with over 99% of my own grinded gil. More importantly, I'm a conscientious consumer. I'm not about to start white knighting when a company drops a steaming load on our collective chests with content that is unimaginative and lacks any semblance of thought/fun/creativity/challenge. I'll take no/delayed content over rushed/crappy content any day. All rushed/crappy content does, for me, is make me lose hard-to-earn faith in a compnay. Game design is an artform and people shouldn't feel the need to roll with the punches if developers blow their nose and present it to you as part of their game's design.

Inequity is the other major issue here. Some people take over 120 hours to complete a set while other people manage to crank out multiple sets in fractions of the time per set. It's been over 50+ hours of active, aggressive farming since I've had any more Atma drop.

There was a buff to the atma drop , no credible sources but it was rumored to be from 1-5 to maybe 10% now to be honest and no lying I patched 2.3 this morning ran two different fates and got one right of the back (Fish) to be exact with no luck for the past week maybe it was luck , but with more and more content coming out I think they would increase the DR due to players falling behind people are still climbing and not to mention the grind for animous and I don't even know what to do for novus so yes I solely believe in a increased drop rate due to my exp. this morning

I suspected they might do something like that. I'll be disappointed if it just turns out to be dumb luck, especially with them ameliorating the Myth grind aspect of subsequent stages,

[Sipherous]

Honestly The atma grind is nothing compared to previous grinds in MMO's. 1 its RNG your going to luck out or not. Campared to FFXI relic gridn this is cake, and don't complain about time invest vs reward because all the time you spent grinding for Atma you might have beaten coil 2 or something. The grind is long simply for the sole fact that your are casually playing to progress your character instead of straight up death memorization and group syncing to win. Welcome to MMO's if you don't like it it will never change, the grind is real despite how you don't want it to be.

[Seoulstar]

If you cancel your sub over atma.....idk what to say. Must be some sad lazy souls.

dumb comments like this, i don't know what to say either. I guess some people lack the ability to read..or simply don't know what the term lazy means.