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    Kiriah Aishi
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100

    Ultima Weapon....more like Ughtima Weapon

    I decided to try The Minstrel's Ballad at the start of my long weekend. With a minimum requirement of ilvl 61, he shouldn't be all that hard, what with my group being pretty decked out, right?

    Are you sure that's not supposed to be minimum requirements ilvl 81? Because I don't think a way exists for a group made entirely out of ilvl 61 could take it down. My well equipped group had him down to about 25%, had the 20% Echo buff, and we hit the 10 minute mark so we all died.

    Please tell me that, since it's a pre-req for something in 2.3, that he may be nerfed a bit? The menders are making a fortune off me, and all of my groups have pretty much said the same thing.
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    Alukah Bast
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    There is a way, the same way people used when they first cleared it. From what I've read that battle requires everyone to follow a strategy flawlessly, and even use tank LB3 at certain point.
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    Kiriah Aishi
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    I'm aware of the strategy. I make sure others know the strategy. My largest amount of defeats just came from his enrage mode.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
    I'm aware of the strategy. I make sure others know the strategy. My largest amount of defeats just came from his enrage mode.
    If your group is as geared as you feel they are, you should never hit enrage unless you're still learning mechanics.
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    Dalek Codex
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
    I'm aware of the strategy. I make sure others know the strategy. My largest amount of defeats just came from his enrage mode.
    How many people needed to be raised? I just did it over the weekend with a friend as my back-up healer (and another as a bard which basically got us the kill). We raised 3 DD's back to back off swiftcast cooldowns the entire second half of the fight (I think it was 9 raises total) and killed him 19 seconds before the cast completed. I can't imagine it's that tight of an enrage for a full i70 group that doesn't die.
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    Always remember the Silver Rule:
    "Treat others as they treat you!" ...or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    If your group is as geared as you feel they are, you should never hit enrage unless you're still learning mechanics.
    I'm sure some may be. I guess I'm mostly complaining since I wasted so much time on it.
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    Ast Eryut
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    It's a very complicated fight and I hope you win it soon. If he goes enraged it might be that too many people are dying in your parties.
    The problem like always is those orb links...have to run at them as a group (and second tank can help).
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    I healed it a few weeks ago with not too many problems ...and I don't even play heals. I would suggest taking a good look at the quality of the players you were grouped with. If people are constantly dying, or not pushing out good DPS numbers then it most likely has something to do with the group. It's a really easy fight IIRC.
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    I don't want to sound like an elitist or anything, but there is only 2 reasons possible for you not completing it. Could be one of them, or both...

    1.) Players keep dying

    2.) The dps isn't doing a very good job pumping out damage

    It's as simple as that. If the dps dies a lot, the overall dps will obviously go down. If nobody, or just 1 or 2 is dying, then they simply aren't playing their job very well.

    That's sadly how it is in this game...
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    M'kael Jin
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 3
    If your DPS are overgeared and you're still hitting enrage, they're either dying or using bad rotations. The mistakes I see happen most often are people (still) get hit by and die to Ifrit charges and don't stack for bombs. If the whole group is at minimum ilvl, stacking properly for bombs is the most important part of the fight.
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